Russian imperial coins - is it a Novadel or is it "real"?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by GregH, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Hi

    I'm new to Russian Imperial coin collecting and i'm finding it difficult to get a good book on the subject. There are a lot of novadels/restrikes out there, which are easy to spot with UK coins, but difficult for me with the less familiar Russian coins.

    How can i tell a novadel from a genuine coin? This Anna Ioanovna ruble below, for example - is it a novadel or real?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    panzerman, Theodosius and fretboard like this.
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert on Imperial Russian coins by any means, but I'd be rather suspicious about the authenticity of this particular coin. The details look rather crude when compared with contemporary examples on Numista.

    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26968.html
     
  4. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link, Bradley. I'm still trying to get a sense of the look and feel of genuine coins before i commit money to them. I may stick to the full service dealers who vouch for the authenticity of their coins.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    This one is for Eugene..... he would know.
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..idk bout yours, but i bought this one for 3 bucks from China....i'd be leery at best...they make good copies, complete with legend on the edge... repro Russian czar Anne coin 002.JPG
     
    GregH likes this.
  7. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    That is perhaps a pretty worn corn that was tooled or something.
     
    GregH likes this.
  8. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Not an expert on that era of Russian coins but that coin does not look right.

    The obverse looks weird especially compared to authentic examples, the details are grainy and the denticles just stop halfway.
     
    GregH likes this.
  9. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the opinions guys. Consensus is that it's not genuine. I need to do more study on this subject.
     
    ominus1 likes this.
  10. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Novodel is essentially a restrike but some modifications are allowed.

    This is neither. It's just a replica. I wouldn't pay a single cent for it.
     
    Theodosius and GregH like this.
  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    There's no "a" in "novodel". Based on the appearance, I agree that this one doesn't look right, though like the other respondents, my experience with 18th century Russian silver is very limited at best.
     
    GregH likes this.
  12. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Hello mister Gregory. Tell me the weight of your rouble 1737.
     
  13. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    25.6g according to the seller’s listing.
     
  14. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Thanks. The weight is normal but my guess that this is a fake.
     
  15. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It is 100% fake Siberian man!!! Coins were not very circular back then. Poor details and look at the eyes of the Empress! Looks sad!!!
     
  16. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    All the weight proves is that it’s made from the right metal.

    I’ll take your advice and condemn it as fake. I don’t know Russian coins well yet. Do you know any good books?
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page