EAC grading vs TPG on this 1851 Large cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jerryc39, Nov 16, 2020.

  1. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    Bought this coin for about $20 thinking it could be an N-3 51/81. Sent it to Bob Grellman who said N-3 die stat B late. VF-25 grade. Would you say it would grade slightly higher at a TPG? VF-30 or 35? Pics are not the greatest, 7EB610E3-DC5F-4B27-B5BF-8A53E23498EE.jpeg 726EA5FD-2BEF-4C50-B446-8135F8311E3B.jpeg
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The TPGS's (Commercial grading) generally grade Larger cents higher than EAC (Net grading).
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    First of all, nice find ! I think he's right on with that assessment .
     
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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ditto
     
  6. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    just wonder how much. 10 points maybe?
     
  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Ask for conservation and you might VF-30 or XF-40.

    EDIT: :oops: VF-30 - 35.
     
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  8. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    used verdicare to remove green spots. worked pretty well. Big price difference between vf and xf for this coin.
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I don't think that it will get a higher grade from the TPGs, if it gets a grade at all. There are a couple of green spots that might lift.

    The late die state makes this coin look more worn than it is. For that reason, I would be quite surprised if the TPGs gave it more than a VF-25..
     
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  10. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your replies. These pics are not flattering at all to how the coin looked in hand. Grellman thought tpg 30 to 35 grade reasonable
     
  11. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    It might get a 30 or 35 from a TPG, but I seriously doubt it would get anything higher than that. Better pictures would help us be more definitive.
     
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  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Clean it, slab it, keep it. You are the best grader in my opinion. Good luck!
     
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  13. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Hi. May I ask where you bought VerdiCare from. Can't seem to find any. Thanks.
     
  14. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    had some from long time ago
     
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  15. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    As I understand it, EAC first grades a coin by normal methods (essentially ANA standards), then they start taking into account problems that the ANA standards don't.
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Yeah 30-35 at a tpg. I agree
     
  17. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    yes I think they start with the detail or sharpness grade and then deduct for flaws. I think they are stricter on both.
     
  18. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    IMO a VF 30 but don't think it would make 35. Opinion based on PCGS photograde. I've noticed more than a few times they've graded coins higher than what their own photograde shows.
     
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