Hey everyone, I'm looking at buying this 1875 S Trade dollar and i need some advice. Does this coin look legitimate? It weighs 25.95g and is circulated. I have attached pics and hope you guys can give me your thoughts.
I am not an expert in this series but here is what I know. The coin has been scrubbed pretty rigorously. The other thing is that the US mint was very meticulous about the trade dollars in an effort to avoid counterfeits. The lack of denticles from about 11 to 2 o'clock give me pause.
Thats the kind of thing that makes me suspicious, the US mints by that stage were making high quality products and this looks kind of wonky. Also on pictures i have seen the rim should be much thicker.
The 7 in the date seems to have a lump on it, and on the reverse below the "LL"s in dollar there is also a lump, the line above the "C" in america looks raised and the graininess of the overall piece with many other signs show that this is a counterfeit.
The coin definitely looks like trouble to me for all the above reasons given. Save up a few more dollars and buy yourself a much nicer grade Trade Dollar.
Hello. As more collectors and experts chime in, the consensus will be it is a poor quality cast counterfeit. Save your money unless you are getting it for $5 or less as a coin for educational purposes. I always tell collectors to buy the book before you buy the coin. Take some of the money you would have spent on this counterfeit coin and I suggest buying "A BUYERS GUIDE TO SILVER DOLLARS & TRADE DOLLARS OF THE UNITED STATES" by Q. David Bowers or other reference books on silver dollars and trade dollars. Try to buy a reference book that has good quality pictures and reference to identify the die characteristics of a genuine coin. Enjoy coin collecting but don't waste your money on this trade dollar.
Perfect answer. I see better cast copies at Chinese markets locally for less than $5. Not even a decent pot metal fake. US, British, and French trade dollars all have to be suspected fake unless coming from a reliable source. They are not coins to find cheap in flea markets or on Ebay.
The advice I always see on this site is not to buy a trade dollar that is not slabbed. Un slabbed trade dollars are most likely counterfeit.
Boy, someone spent a lot of time trying to make this coin look heavily circulated so they could sell a fake. I'm curious as to the asking price, just to see if the seller is part of the scam. Welcome to CT BTW. And thanks for posting Full Image photos. Nice job.
A little wet dirt and plastic bearings in a rock polisher on low will do the trick. Unfortunately for them, its polishing pot metal, which will always look like this. OP, too many things to point out why we all know its fake. Some easy ones are raised lines on reverse at 3 and 4, this would mean the die had major gouges, unlikely on US mint products. Also, at 9 a major crack but does not break the flan. Very unlikely for silver coins, but common in pot metal. Missing denitlces though letters intact, etc. Learn from this pic how to at least spot these cheap pot metal imitations. The Chinese have MUCH better ones than this.