Does this Trade dollar look correct?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by GeneralWaste, Nov 16, 2020.

  1. GeneralWaste

    GeneralWaste New Member

    Hey everyone, I'm looking at buying this 1875 S Trade dollar and i need some advice. Does this coin look legitimate? It weighs 25.95g and is circulated. I have attached pics and hope you guys can give me your thoughts.
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  3. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    looks like a fine reverse 2 to me?
     
  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I am not an expert in this series but here is what I know. The coin has been scrubbed pretty rigorously. The other thing is that the US mint was very meticulous about the trade dollars in an effort to avoid counterfeits. The lack of denticles from about 11 to 2 o'clock give me pause.
     
  5. GeneralWaste

    GeneralWaste New Member

    Thats the kind of thing that makes me suspicious, the US mints by that stage were making high quality products and this looks kind of wonky. Also on pictures i have seen the rim should be much thicker.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Too many problems for me anyways . Much better for probably the same price .l 1878S Trade Dollarrev.jpg
     
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    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Definitely not.

    That coin is a low quality cast fake. Stay far away.
     
  9. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    I agree that it's almost certainly counterfeit. Lumps and other weirdnesses all over.
     
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  10. Steve Shupe

    Steve Shupe Active Member

    The 7 in the date seems to have a lump on it, and on the reverse below the "LL"s in dollar there is also a lump, the line above the "C" in america looks raised and the graininess of the overall piece with many other signs show that this is a counterfeit.
     
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  11. schnickelfritz48

    schnickelfritz48 Well-Known Member

    The coin definitely looks like trouble to me for all the above reasons given. Save up a few more dollars and buy yourself a much nicer grade Trade Dollar.
     
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  12. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    Looks like an ugly fake!
     
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  13. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    Hello. As more collectors and experts chime in, the consensus will be it is a poor quality cast counterfeit. Save your money unless you are getting it for $5 or less as a coin for educational purposes. I always tell collectors to buy the book before you buy the coin. Take some of the money you would have spent on this counterfeit coin and I suggest buying "A BUYERS GUIDE TO SILVER DOLLARS & TRADE DOLLARS OF THE UNITED STATES" by Q. David Bowers or other reference books on silver dollars and trade dollars. Try to buy a reference book that has good quality pictures and reference to identify the die characteristics of a genuine coin. Enjoy coin collecting but don't waste your money on this trade dollar.
     
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  14. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    Looks like a fake to me.
     
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  15. GeneralWaste

    GeneralWaste New Member

    Thanks everyone for your advice, i won't buy this coin!
     
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  16. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Perfect answer. I see better cast copies at Chinese markets locally for less than $5. Not even a decent pot metal fake. US, British, and French trade dollars all have to be suspected fake unless coming from a reliable source. They are not coins to find cheap in flea markets or on Ebay.
     
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  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    The advice I always see on this site is not to buy a trade dollar that is not slabbed. Un slabbed trade dollars are most likely counterfeit.
     
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  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Late to party, but it looks like a poorly executed cast counterfeit.
     
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  20. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Boy, someone spent a lot of time trying to make this coin look heavily circulated so they could sell a fake. I'm curious as to the asking price, just to see if the seller is part of the scam.
    Welcome to CT BTW. And thanks for posting Full Image photos. Nice job.
     
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  21. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    A little wet dirt and plastic bearings in a rock polisher on low will do the trick. Unfortunately for them, its polishing pot metal, which will always look like this.

    OP, too many things to point out why we all know its fake. Some easy ones are raised lines on reverse at 3 and 4, this would mean the die had major gouges, unlikely on US mint products. Also, at 9 a major crack but does not break the flan. Very unlikely for silver coins, but common in pot metal. Missing denitlces though letters intact, etc. Learn from this pic how to at least spot these cheap pot metal imitations. The Chinese have MUCH better ones than this.
     
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