I think I (kind of) found my first error!!!!!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Speedy, May 8, 2005.

  1. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I was buying a coin for my brother-in-law the other day and today he shows me what looked to be a Struck-Thru piece of wire on it....

    What do you think from these photos???

    Is it worth sending it to ANACS?

    Speedy
     
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  3. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I'm sure it would be well worth it to that company. ;)
     
  4. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Well...I was thinking about sending on the special that is going right now for $12/per coin and it is the 5 day grading...

    Speedy
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Looks like a strike through to me Speedy. If it's worth the $12 to you - go for it ;)
     
  6. survivor

    survivor New Member

    This strike through classification has me boggled, it seems to me that a strike through would be something that was struck through the coin, (meaning going all the way through} and something that is struck into the obverse or the reverse only, would be an imbedded strike. Sorry to interupt your post with this question. Confused
     
  7. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    Speedy:

    Cool error! And you did say the wire is still there right? Seems so from the pictures. If so, I'd get it slabbed too. Again, neat error.

    Survivor:

    I follow what your asking and I still catch myself thinking the same thing. I believe the design is the "object" that is being "struck through" onto the planchet.

    i.e. The coin design was struck, through a piece of wire, onto the planchet. (read the sentence pausing at each comma, and it makes a bit more sense).
     
  8. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    No--it looked to be grease that is filling the spot where the wire was....

    I'm going to send it in but not for a few weeks.

    Speedy

    PS
    Lawdogct isright about Survivor's questions
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It does appear you have a filamentous object embedded in the coin. Not "struck-through" but "struck-in". That's much nicer than an ordinary strike-through.
     
  10. NICK66

    NICK66 Coin Hoarder

    That is a pretty cool "error." Nice find.
     
  11. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Mike--can you go a little deeper on that?

    Thanks

    Speedy
     
  12. hipbob

    hipbob New Member

    i would go for it 2
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I'm not sure how much deeper I can go. I cannot ascertain the nature of the object from here. The most common substance embedded in silver eagles is plastic, but these take the shape of thin sheets, not strands.

    Retained strike-throughs are a very popular error category, regardless of the nature and origin of the foreign body. Unless you have a clad coin, they are actually very difficult to distinguish from rolled-in objects, so your error might belong to the latter category.
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Thanks Mike--How would I list it for ANACS?
    As a Struck thru or a Struck in?

    I found another one that I'll try to post latter...this one has hair struck in it...the hair is still in it...(black hair)!!!

    Speedy
     
  15. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    You could call it a "retained strike-through", or "embedded debris", or "struck-in debris". Doesn't really matter. They're all synonymous.

    Hair, huh? That's entirely possible. You'd need to look through a very high powered microscope to see the characteristic microstructure of a human hair. Otherwise it could be a black fabric fiber.
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Here is a photo of the newer one I found.

    I see some on both sides but this side has the most


    Speedy
     
  17. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Interesting. Certainly genuine. Could be hair, could be fiber. I would lean toward fiber, since the kinks are very tight and many are sharply angled. Hair tends toward smoother, more regular, and wider curves. Depends on the hair texture, of course.
     
  18. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Thanks Mike...I'm going to send both in and see what they come back as....I'm working on a article or such about ASE so this will be great!!!

    I'm right when I say that there has been no errors found for the ASE other than the Struck Thru and Struck in?

    Speedy
     
  19. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    That is s good point. I have never seen a major error (off center, etc.) on a SE.

    This is a testament to the extra care they take in making them (no bag marks, for example.).

    Maybe the process is largely manual, as compared to normal coin production, which is entirely automated.
     
  20. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I am aware of one significant misaligned die error and a one-sided multi-strike reported by Bill Fivaz several years ago. I suspect there are other errors out there.
     
  21. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Thanks Mike...Sorry it took so long for me to post again but I was out of state.

    Speedy
     
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