Unlisted Xian Feng 5 cash or fake?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ls8driver, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. ls8driver

    ls8driver Chinese Coin collector

    I have a nice-looking brass Xian Feng Zhong Bao 5 cash, Boo De (Chengde, Zhili mint) 27.9mm, 7.9g.

    Hartill only lists an iron version of this coin (H22.1059), and I don't have any other reference work.

    Has anyone come across a brass version, or is this an attractive fake?

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  3. manymore

    manymore Chinese Charms

    ls8driver,

    I would judge it a fake.

    I have a number of reference books in Chinese and they only show iron versions of this coin. The only brass versions would be the "mother coins".
     
  4. ls8driver

    ls8driver Chinese Coin collector

    I was afraid someone would say that, so the coin is already in the "fakes" section of my collection (although I call them replicas).

    :headbang:
     
  5. ls8driver

    ls8driver Chinese Coin collector

    In my newly acquired Krause SCWC (5th Ed) the brass coin is listed as C#6.2

    Maybe I'll have to relocate my coin.

    Any comments?
     
  6. manymore

    manymore Chinese Charms

    ls8driver,

    I tend to rely on Chinese sources as the authoritative references on old Chinese coins and charms.

    According to these texts, the only brass specimen of this coin is a "mother coin" which would have been the hand-carved model used for the casting of the iron coins.

    Some of these Chinese references use a system to indicate rarity. This brass "mother coin" is rated a "one shang" which would make it the rarest of the rare.

    One Chinese reference notes that a rarity of "one shang" means there is only one specimen known to exist.

    As I view the images of your coin, I do not see any of the classic characteristics of a "mother coin".

    But, I certainly am not an expert in this field and I am only passing along the above information for your consideration.

    Gary
     
  7. ls8driver

    ls8driver Chinese Coin collector

    Hi Gary.

    I agree that this coin certainly does not have the quality to be a mother coin.

    I will leave it in my Replicas section with a note and a qustion mark.

    Cheers

    Richard
     
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