Die cracks??

OK, another 2 post from the fish. Seems like I'm always ><}}}}*> for errors. The following is a 1919-S and a 1956. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Mark

 

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That's definitely a die crack on the top coin (1956-S?) running from Lincoln's head to the rim between the 'W' and 'E' of 'WE'.

I'm not sure what is going on with the 1919-S (the line running through the date). I'm far from the expert but I suspect this is some sort of planchet flaw. It could be the photo or the lighting but it just does not look like a die crack.

 

Thanks I wish the 56 was but it's 1956 plain.

 

The slash across the head running horizontal? Anything there?

 

Ooops. My bad. The old memory isn't what it . . . Hmmm. What was I gonna say? I think I'll take a nap now.

 

The '19S is a lamination.

 

Coming down between the WE is a die crack which is part of a bigger problem. the line across the head is a retained die break. the 1919 s is a lamination error.

Richard

 

19-S is lamination

The 19-S is a lamentation when impurities were in the metal mix of the planchet separating the top surface from the body of the coin.
The other is indeed a die break - many of these are quite pronounced and have been called "scull caps" where big round places appear to be a cap of sorts.
Ben Peters

 

Thanks all. Should I throw them back into circulation or are they worth keeping?

 

It is a 56. It is copper, so it is worth something. If you are asking do the die cracks make it a valuable coin, no they do not. Some year you might find someone who would give you a dime for it.

 

A retained die break goes from rim to rim,and i don't see evidence of that here ,and its looks like lamination near the date and a die crack near the rim of we .and the head is a die break no retained die break. These were called the cracked skull in the sixties the break near the head

Jazzcoins joe

 

The 1956 has a neat die crack. I remember seeing this one depicted in a book I had on error coins. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the book now.

-- Peter Planchet

 

The picture below shows how this is a retained die break. The line shown with the red arrows is a die crack from the rim to the back of the head. The blue arrows show a crack that starts at the die crack and eventually returns to the die crack. This area has broken from the die and instead of falling out it has been forced slightly further into the die (that is, retained) causing the area within the crack to be slightly raised from the rest of the image.

A retained die break does not have to go from rim to rim. In fact, that is refered to as a retained cud, not retained die break.

 

I'd keep em if I was you. Save em.
or......... Nevermind

Smart peeps on here. I seem to have trouble telling the difference between the die cracks and the laminations and the breaks.

 

Thanks all for the help. Hey ziggy..this isn't gonna be another snowman episode with jazz is it?

 

not on this end. I've made my point. He does seem to want to contradict anything i say though.

'nuf said

Richard

 

The '56 is a Spiked Head/Cracked Skull. Jean Cohen classification JC-56-64B.

 

it looks post the Both assassination

 

1959D and 1961D both had dies with bullet shaped die chips right behind Abe's head.

 

It may just be Just kidding

jazz