Slabbed, but no grade. What do you think ?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mojavedave, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Just won this one on E-Bay. Hard to get a Carson under $100.00 in any condition. I sure hope this turns out a little better than the pictures.

    This was the discription on E-Bay;

    "A very nice 1882-CC Morgan Dollar! Certified by NGC, "Carson City Hoard, Circulated". NGC is one of the leaders in coin grading services! Certification #1861864-163. The Carson City Morgan Dollars are more rare than most Morgans!
    "

    I don't understand why there is no grade on the slab.


    I got it for $ 81.00. Any comments ? What is your grade ?
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My grade is about a third of what you paid :(
     
  4. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Does this mean you would only pay $ 27.00 for a CC ?

    Count me in - Tell me if you have any you will sell me at that price in any condition.
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Looks like this one to me. It sold for $86 @ heritage. And every G-4 or better went for$48 or more.
     

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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I stand corrected. You paid about the going rate for VF. Times have changed again it seems.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Question....Why not a numerical grade?
     
  8. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    looks like an okay coin to me.
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Good question - I know PCGS has a new service that will say genuine, but have not seen a NGC coin like this.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Because it was part of a bulk submission. The coins get either an Unc grade or a Circ grade and that's it.
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Thanks Doug, figured it was something like that but just had to ask....
     
  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Think about all the places in the Wild West where it got tossed around in poker games or paid for a sack of coffee. Neat coin.
     
  13. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Good explaination Doug. I suppose it is a much cheaper rate for a classification than it is for a grade, except I can't understand why anyone would pay anything for something so obvious.
     
  14. andrew289

    andrew289 Senior Analyst

    It's a bulk submission. The coin vault on ShopatHomeTV used to sell coins like this and might have sold this one originally, They loved their hoards. They would generically slab coins with hoard attributions and then sell then in groupls of 5 or 10 to move them out. Otherwise to pay for a VG-EF grade would have taken to much away from the profit margin. I think bulk grading was something like $3.00 each for them.

    Here is another example: http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...No=22494&ic=ViewItemArchives-LiveMatchesPromo
     
  15. bsshog40

    bsshog40 Senior Member

    These were also, as noted, part of the Carson City Hoard. It's mostly just an authentication slab.
     
  16. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I have a couple NGC coins that just say "Brilliant Uncirculated" (a 1922 peace, 1884-o morgan, and an ike)
     
  17. peterplanchet

    peterplanchet New Member

    The bulk submission slab certainly adds nothing to the value of the coin. Sometimes collectors will pay a premium for a coin that came from a famous collection, but not a "carson city hoard." Nonetheless, it is a nice circulated lower grade carson city morgan.
     
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