I'm new to the sight , was refered by a member and I instantly signed up. So much knowledge here. Anyway's, I posted this on errors but was kinda curious about it. I kinda got overwhelmed trying to price it myself . My eyes are shot after looking through so many coins for errors. Thanks for any help/ info you can give.
Mark, I know very little about errors and double dies. But, it is not the coin pictured on Lincoln Cent Resource http://www.lincolncentresource.com/doubledies/1970Sddo1.html Notice how the doubling of the coin at the link is from side to side, as if the die rotated. Now, notice how the doubling of your coin is up and down. Like I said, I know very little about errors, but to me this one looks more like Machine Doubling. I could be wrong, and there are other variations of the double die for that year.
fishaddict, Welcome to Coin Talk! I have to agree with DJP that it is Machine Doubling! The San Francisco Mint turned out a lot of Business Strike Lincoln Cents...especially from 1968 to 1970 that exhibit Machine Doubling mainly on the Obverse. While most of these exhibit Machine Doubling either on LIBERTY, the back of Lincoln's Bust and somewhat on IN GOD or on WE TRUST, the front of Lincoln's Bust and the Date and Mintmark, very few exhibit the same on all of the Obverse devices (details and lettering). Frank
Do you have a better photo of the "7"? Especially the small blob/bar above the angle. Some of the smaller DDO for 1970S show a small bar that is part of a doubled 7. Yours looks a little too "blobish" rather than a bar, but just thought to be thorough. it does have machine doubling in my opinion, but MD can also occur with a real DD. Jim
Welcome and, Welcome and hope you get "hooked" on die varieties!! This coin has minor mechanical doubling very common for the type. We see them all the time but, this year is loaded with true doublED dies so keep searching. A Cherry Pickers Guild would really help you to learn true die doubling from other forms of doubling - my guilds have probably helped me find many thousands of dollars worth of doublED dies also there are great threads on here (Coin Talk) to help you learn. One of the best ways I have been able to explain a mechanically doubled coin from a true doublED die is - a mechanically doubled coin will show flat shelve-like doubling to it, sort of like the metal has been pushed, pulled or scooted during the moment of striking. The dies worked loose - look at your coin and imagine the dies are loose and the when they come together to strike the coin there is a wobble or shifting at the moment of striking and the images are slightly doubled. True doubled dies generally will show thick extra letters, numbers, or parts of the design sort of juxtaposition of each other. Slightly on top of and adjacent to but with an entire portion of the extra letter or number ajar to the primary. Remember when people that have not learned yet what a true doublED die is they will say "double die" as if it has something to do with the coin being struck more than once - it is not, it the die or hubb that during manufacturing has been impressed more than once in a manner that transferred the image in an offset or otherwise ajar position and created a die (doublED die) and every coin that die strikes is a doublED die. Additionally, remember the die is a negative image and encuse design of the final stuck coin. If the die was a postive image we would not have as dramatic types of doublED dies any longer and our coins then would be stamped and not stuck - the coin metal fills the die during striking not the other way around. Hope this helps you, Ben Peters
Welcome to the forum, collecting errors and varieties can be a lot of fun, and you will find many members here who enjoy collecting these. One place you would want to check out is Ken Potter's web site you can learn a lot from his work with errors. The site is http://koinpro.tripod.com/ you will find the information on doubling with pictures of different types of doubling. Hope this helps. Bill
I want to thank everyone for the help and info. You have already made be a better collector. Thanks, Mark
Mark, I would say MD from the photos. Here is the best site for copper coins. The URL is for the search page. Just fill in the checkboxes and you will get a great collection of photos and information.Charles Daughtrey, the writer of the site and the book "Looking through Lincoln Cents" is a real expert. Jim http://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php
