I have a 2011 d nickel that its the same date bothsides. There is no seam on neither side of the coi

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by David1611, Nov 11, 2020.

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Is it real weight 4.84 grams

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  1. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    Most definitely I have no reason to think it's not real if by some miracle it comes out to be fake I definitely will cover my cost I'm whatever it takes I'm a up most honest person I do have a very good eye for coin especially errors on coins and I like to be very thorough about my find before I even say a word to anybody in the coin community I sometimes hesitate because no matter how real something can be people will always think that it is not legit or there is no possible way you could have a true double die double headed coin double struck rotated and collar type of coins two types of obverse and reverse mule coins people don't believe what you have but I am definitely willing to take the risk of seeing if it is a genuine coin or not because honestly if this thing's fake they did one heck of a great job there are no seams to be found the weight is good it has a ring sound when you drop it I appreciate it Fred Weinberg I'm at work right now when I get home I will get the information together and work on getting it sent into a Grading Company
     
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  3. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    It appears to me to be a very skillfully done alteration. The type 2 upset edge doesn't seem to flow properly into the field of the coin on picture 2. The weight is within tolerance of .194 grams. I usually use a 45 to 60 power bi-ocular microscope to determine counterfeit and altered coins for authorities. Further examination under a microscope by an authentication expert will reveal the true aspect of the coin. Although from what I see, I would not waste my money sending the coin out to authenticating experts, I would recommend, if you want to, you could send the coin to PCGS. Then report back here with their determination. Enjoy coin collecting.
     
  4. Rich Buck

    Rich Buck Yukon Cornelius

    Cool if you found it in change though. I have a JFK 50 cent piece given to me by a Secret Santa at work.
     
  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    A double dealer coin not a mint error.
     
  6. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry to say the miracle will be if the
    coin is genuine -

    So please don't expect a miracle ........
     
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  7. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    The people who make novelty two-headed or two-tailed coins have a milling machine that grinds out one side of the coin INSIDE the raised rim on that side. The result looks like a very shallow cup. A second coin has the corresponding side ground flat AND the rim removed. It now fits inside the shallow cup, probably with a dab of glue in the center to hold it in place. Thus the seam will not be on the edge of the coin, but on one side or the other where the flat part of the field meets the raised rim of the cup.

    It is not a mint error. The off-tone ring is your proof.

    TD
    Former Senior Authenticator, American Numismatic Association
     
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  8. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    here are up close shots of the rim bothsides of coin and different places there are no seams
     

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  9. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It appears that the seam shows in the
    top two photos - top left, top right

    It's been smoothed down a bit, but that's
    the seam, imo.
     
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  10. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I'm confused. I thought the way the dies were installed made it impossible to put two of the same sided dies in the press.
    From https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/two-headed-coin-value-768399
    The U.S. Mint Can't Make Two-Headed Coins
    Production processes in the U.S. Mint make it virtually impossible for a two-headed (or two-tailed) coin to be manufactured by the mint. The coining presses that are used to produce U.S. coins have two different shaped receptacles for the coin dies. When coin dies are manufactured, the shank of the coin die for the obverse is a different shape than the shank of the coin dies for the reverse. This manufacturing process design makes it virtually impossible for a coin press operator to load two obverse (or two reverse) dies into the coin press.

    Clarification please.
     
  11. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    The coin has a partial double rims on one side which is normal I see a lot of nickels with double rims that are partial or just a sliver of a corner but I promise you there is no seam anywhere I've magnified 80 * and I cannot see no separation line anywhere on any part of the coin it's hard to convince someone that it is what I am saying because it's not in the other person's hand if the person was able to view it for themselves underneath a magnifying glass and then could most definitely say yes or no but I appreciate everybody's information it is greatly appreciate it no matter if it's not the words I want to hear or the words I want to hear I think everyone for chiming in and given their thoughts on this thing
     
  12. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    OK - let us know who you're shipping the coin to,
    and let us know the results. I'd love to write
    you a check for your submission fees and postage.
     
  13. Chip Kirkpatrick

    Chip Kirkpatrick Well-Known Member

    Well it don’t mean a thing if it don’t have that ring...
     
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  14. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    "Some men you just can't reach." Cool Hand Luke

    ~Rob
     
  15. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    So are you taking Fred Weinberg up on his offer or not?
     
  16. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    Im am having it checked as fred weinberg said see what this thing turns out to be now is this coin turns out to be a fake then only thing I can think of it's a well struck fake cuz like I mentioned in my post this thing does not have a seem to it on either side of the coin I would hope that it turns out to be real but I'm not guaranteeing anything all I am saying is if it's fake it's done very very well
     
  17. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    "all I am saying is if it's fake it's done very very well"
    And they are to the thousands of an inch . You not need a scope to see that SEAM . Even Tic Tac and Daxter see it .
     
  18. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    I appreciate your thought and yes I am going to have it looked at
     
  19. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Your Welcome . Always listen to the almighty experts .;)
     
  20. David1611

    David1611 New Member

    Yes I agree with you completely about listening to what experts have to say and yes they know a ton and they're usually always right but everybody knows it's hard to judge a coin just buy a picture that it has to be looked over in hand to really be able to say yes it's real no it's fake or whatever the case may be for the amount of time I've been doing coins I've gotten to become very knowledgeable and I usually can say yes something is what it is or say no something is not what I was thinking it was I know my coins very well and everyone can still learn more again thank you for your info and yes I am going to have this coin checked out
     
  21. Scuba4fun777

    Scuba4fun777 Well-Known Member

    David,
    I hope that Mr. Weinberg will reimburse you for your grading fees because you’ve proven everyone wrong. However, the tell-tale “ring”, your photos and history are not on your side.
    Best of luck!
     
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