Input on a 2020v75 eagle, who got screwed?

Okay, this is called a fair weather friend. When he needs you, he's all in. When you then need him, 10 years later, he renegs. This is nasty and I would end the relationship.

The fact is, he would never have known about this were it not for you. You told him it was a limited mintage item and would be worth more, and that is why you are asking him to do this for you. (We're not talking about the morality of doing this now, we're talking about what happened between friends.) He COULD have done the research BEFORE agreeing to your offer, but he didn't. He made an agreement with you, gave you his word and then afterwards did research and started haggling with you to try to make more money. This is NOT an honest person. A person's word is their trust and he just told you that you can't trust him. Not as a friend and not even as a businessperson.

When you initially called to ask him to do this for you he could have said, "Let me think about it and get back to you" and then looked into it. But he didn't say that. He took the deal you offered and now is trying to make another buck off of you. And to add insult to injury, you were THERE FOR HIM him 10 years ago for a monetary transaction.

If he now claims that you offered him too little for something that is worth a lot more, he's wrong on that. You were not paying him for the coin, you were paying him for the SERVICE of obtaining it for you. You were offering him $50 for something that would take a few minutes of his time. Something that he knew nothing about.

On top of all of it, because of you he learned about flipping coins from the US Mint and instead of thanking you for the introduction to doing this, he is trying to make more money off of you.

He doesn't keep his word and his only excuse is trying to make a few more bucks off of someone who was there for him when it came to money in the past.

Goodbye. He's not an honest friend. He's not an honest businessperson. He is garbage.

 

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What a friend. It's no wonder I couldn't get one over the hour and 45 minutes I tried. Hard to find somebody who wasn't trying for one to flip. Looks like the word got out big time. Don't think it's worth going for these ASEs anymore. My time and sanity is worth more than that. I would've kept mine. Oh well.

 

I think the first five words of your post were wrong.

 

Had actually seems very fitting. One way friends should be no more than an acquaintance

 

I'm just going to say it just cost you nothing to find out what kind of person your friend is before it did cost you something. and that is....
Priceless!

in my teen years I had a friend that was getting evicted and couldn't take everything with him, I helped him pack up what he could pack and take, but when it came down to cassettes and CDs, he couldn't take them and had nothing to play them on either anyways.

Well, I helped him all day for free, and he's trying to sell me all this stuff he's about to throw away. I told him I'd take it if he's going to throw it away but I had no interest in buying his stuff.

And so, he smashed threw it all away rather than let me have it, which I would have returned it all to him when he got more stable.

And so, yeah, no longer friends. not a beer, not a meal, not even a thanks for helping me pack, nothing, and it wasn't the first time he was shady, With friends like that, who needs enemies...

 

Seems to me that folks, and especially young folks today, toss around the word "friend" way too loosely. Maybe overly optimistic wishful thinking? Or maybe the word "acquaintence" is three syllables, and too long and hard to say. We need a short, easy, one syllable word for acquaintance.

Anyway, anyone who would do what the OP describes here, or what John Burgess described above, is not a friend. And most likely never really was. But it's good to learn that before you really need to count on them for something important.

 

Facebook made "friend" into a verb. "He friended me." And they have all these "friends" on Facebook, or whatever the new flavor of the day App they are using, and there is this illusion that these people are really their "friends". Meanwhile, they are nothing more than their competitors - competing for who got the most "Likes" to their selfies, or videos, or whatever, competing for attention to their posts and pictures and mean, witty one-liners. Those are not friends.

It is very sad that technology has lowered the Emotional IQ of the latest generation of humans. They don't know how to connect with others without a machine attached to them. I saw a part of a video of a concert for young people and I don't think there was a single person not holding their phone up to video it. It was wild to see - everyone holding their phone up. It makes no sense to someone like me. I would be like "Oh, someone else is taping it? Good! I don't have to, I'll enjoy myself and get the video from someone else later!" But they all "need" to tape it to show to their respective friends 30 seconds after they leave the concert, so they can be the first of their "friends" to get the most "likes".

That's a media competition, not a friendship!

I sound old and crotchety, but I'm not even that old! (It's all relative, isn't it?)

The human connection is what is lost, and developing friends requires a human connection. And throwing around pictures and videos and showing off your latest vacation and your "friends" liking what you post is not friendship.

I wonder how long it will take humanity to figure this out. Probably never because Facebook and all these Apps were developed to give the illusion of satisfying people's need for recognition. It manipulates human weaknesses. The creators of these Social Media Apps even wrote a book about how that was their intention in creating it - preying upon our natural instincts - and how they regret having done that (years later and billions of dollars richer).

 

Excellent!!!

 

I'm sorry that happened to you. That's a mean, spiteful person and he really showed you all his colors. You are fortunate for not having fallen in further with him as friends often do. It was an early lesson, but one you've clearly learned from.

It took me way too many years to learn about the mean, spiteful, cruelty that some people are. I still fall in now and then, always expecting people to act in good faith and with generosity as I would. We live and get burned and learn. And we live and get burned and learn some more. And so it goes...

 

thanks yall, it was a long time ago, Point was really you kind of have to wait for people to show you who they are, and when they do, don't ignore it if it's negative. it's who they really are.

 

Good point! I hadn't even thought of the Facebook "friending" connection because I've never been on Facebook. And because I'm old.

Stiil, I find it sad that the word (and the concept?) "friend" has been bastardized so much that we cannot even effectively communicate anymore the concept of what I consider to be a "friend" without many/most folks thinking you are referring to what I consider to be an aquaintence. One way or another, I think we need some new word(s).

 

I agree that some new words are in order. For these things and a few more in regard to relationships. Like the word "Love". There should be a different word for romantic love than for the love a parent has for a child, etc.

 

Rule 1) Never involve friends and money as soon you won’t have any. I made a friend hundreds of thousands over the years. I’m not sure I ever got a thanks, not that I needed any. I recently asked him for the first time ever to donate $6 dollars for a great cause. He refused. I’m done.

 

You had a verbal (or written) contract and he violated it. He doesn't get to change the terms after the fact. The fact that it went up significantly in value and he has one is entirely due to your knowledge and speculation and not his. Based on your contract, the coin is yours and you owe him the purchase price + $130. That's it. Don't debase yourself by giving him one cent more, and if he doesn't comply, threaten to take him to court.

 

I agree. If you're going to lose the friendship anyway, you may as well get your coin which he agreed to on certain terms. Hold him to it, if you can. If you can't and it's too much aggravation in the cost/benefit analysis, then walk away. But if you can hold him to his word, even if he kicks and screams a bit, that coin is yours at the original agreed-upon price. He's not doing you any favors by sticking to the original agreement, even if he claims he is. You don't have to accept his spin on reality. You know the truth. After you have that coin in hand walk away from the friendship and don't look back. He's not a friend. He's a bait and switch con man.