Ok, this was a easy one but I didnt have to ask here first and I certainly did not bid. This just looks bigtime fake.
Yes, spot on. Good eyes. The older I get the more and more I seem to recognize. Have never bought one myself fortunately.
I could tell by looking but I seen that same style coin on pawn stars go for $100,000 for a real good condition. No way that coin would be $100. I am guessing bidding on a real one would start at well over 10 grand
Help me out please. What did you see on the coin to tell it was a fake? "By looking" is not helping me and maybe others also. Thanks.
As far as the looks fake, compaired to examples I have seen, things like no dash (-) or dot between the EID and MAR on the reverse. Where the points of the daggers are on the reverse also look different where they meet the letters. Alot looks different just on reverse compaired to a known real coin pictured below. That and the lettering on the front is spaced differently by the neck and head from other known example pictured below. but I am betting it isn't real from the look, price and comparison of others like it is best way I can put it.
Mr Inside, the main thing is the odd shape of the jaw/mustache area. Comparing to authentic example it simply doesnt match. Consider the relatively few examples in existence, the odds of a new, non-standard die are low unless a new hoard is found. plus, Everett said the price was very low. Sort of like a Chain Cent that looked odd with a $10 starting bid from a 0-50 feedback eBay seller. just my obvs
Sorry I read that the Eid Mar is rare so many times... There are 85 known examples of the Eid Mar denarius, according to this thread. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/eid-mar-chronicles.344603/ Not sure if that total includes fourrees or not. But if there are 85 solid silver examples existing, that certainly doesn't qualify as a rare coin to me.
Could have been caught by this, I admit it. I am a beginner in ancients but being a modern coin collector for many years I know that it's unlikely to get a rare and expensive coin for a few $. What strikes me is the obverse figure, looking like an angry Asian man but I would have been tempted to think this is just a tooled piece. This is the major challenge for me, I have seen on various sites coins recognized as obvious fakes but I can't spot them. I only buy from respectable auctions, hope this is at least in part guarantee.
Someone is trying to cash in on the recent news of the gold Eid Mar that was auctioned, and the beautiful (and I think the better) Eid Mar that Ancient Joe recently won.
I probably own a few coins with 85 known examples or less - as do many collectors here.. And I will never own an EID MAR because of the outrageously high demand coupled with the fact the most owners aren’t selling. This is a very tough coin to get your hands on at any price. Some people will call a common coin with a scarce date or control mark ‘rare’ while I prefer to look how many coins survive for an entire type or issue. It’s probably worth noting what makes the coin rare and how many people care in any discussion about rarity. Nvb
Fwiw even if I had the means I’d never buy a coin like this from anyone unless it came with a strong provenance or from a top tier dealer or auction house (preferably both)
Yeah I think i would def spend extra to buy from a known dealer or a graded coin of this caliber. The usual more common coins I get $25-$45 wont make me as sick if I did get a fake one. I feel pretty comfortable in spotting easy fakes now. I def learned to check several things like plating and looking at other known coins on the sites and books you all suggested or a quick search here will give great info. This is definitely my go to spot first. I feel for the bidder who paid $100 for that coin. They could of got a way better fake for $24....
Not too familiar with that coin, but I believe it’s one of the scarcer types. If so, I probably wouldn’t buy it unless it was graded or sold by a reputable person. If it’s worth a lot (over 100) I probably wouldn’t buy it anyhow
Sigh. I don't have an example. The EID MAR is highly desired by many collectors, and is far out of reach for my budget. However I stand by what I wrote. The EID MAR is not rare. It's not easy to obtain, but I believe this is due to the broad interest in the coins and the resulting price the coins command. It's not the kind of rarity that you would see once or twice in a lifetime. I think this is an important distinction to make, because auction houses seem to routinely throw in the word "rare" with various adjectives when offering EID MARs for sale.
