A curious one

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Muhammad Niazi, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    I have been seeing a few strange new coins around. Heres one with a blurred out bust surrounded by some legend. The obverse has some winged figure,nike? Woth a square monogram. The monogram is what caught my eye. My guess is that these are some imitation coins of indogreeks or scythians, but what do you guys think.

    Pictures are a bit low q, as I dont have it. Screenshot_20201107-001701.png
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  3. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Early/proto-Kushan, Kujula Kadphises AE "drachm" - mine was attributed as mint in Chach
    Kujula kadphises drachm chach mint .jpg
     
  4. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Ah lovely, that was a quick identification!

    What about this one, not sure if the obverse is the right side up. The reverse seems to have a crude hercules with a club. And whatever that chicken footprint looking thing is.

    Screenshot_20201107-011027.png Screenshot_20201107-011035.png
     
  5. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Also Kujula, the reverse figure is Heracles. I have a few; they come in many sizes and degrees of degeneracy imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-HQJg0TO8WL2Hbhz.jpg

    Kushan Kujula Kadphises AE tetradrachm hercules.jpg

    Kujula Kadphises AE drachm extremely degenerate.jpg
     
  6. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    So one can say these coins were the earliest form of kushan art.
     
  7. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Probably not the first - I believe the 'Heraios' type was earlier, either an early name of Kujula, or else his father etc. I only have an obol:

    Kushan heraios obol.jpg

    Before him, the disjointed Yueh-Chi tribes also minted coins, I believe the most common are the hemidrachms of "Sapadbizes"
     
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