Opinons needed

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Seano, May 2, 2005.

  1. Seano

    Seano New Member

    Hey all. Im just curious of everyones opinon of auctions similar to these.
    http://www.bid4assets.com/auction/index.cfm?auctionid=183579

    Is it a scam? if it is how do they get away with it?
    Can it be a deal?

    Im sure its probably to good to be true but i was just curiuous of everyones 2 cents.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. owenm08

    owenm08 New Member

    I don't know what that something is, but something smells very fishy.
     
  4. pob374

    pob374 New Member

    Never saw that one before,sorry I can't help. However its good to keep your eyes open.
     
  5. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Rip off...for one thing they are using every grading Co.--even SGS and NTC...Now I have seen some good coins from NTC but NEVER from SGS.

    Why would anybody list a auction that is worth over $117 thousand for $0.00--just doesn't happen that way.

    Speedy

    PS--I see that you MUST bid $5,000.00 for the first bid....that is what I call a rip off.
     
  6. whoopig

    whoopig New Member

    Look at what you are getting. A bunch of over valued coins in third rate slabs. The only ones in a top tier holder are moderns from the past 5 years. Most of the SGS and NTC grades will drop at least a point or two if you submit them to NGC or PCGS. Check the pops on those coinsat NGC and the prices at PCGS.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Do not walk - RUN away from such things as fast as you can !!

    This is a prefect example of a seller trying to take advanatge of unsuspecting buyers.

    How do they get away with it ? They're not doing anything illegal. Unfortunately it happens every day :(
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It wouldn't surprise me if he GOT the prices from the PCGS price guide.
     
  9. Seano

    Seano New Member

    Thanks for all the info. MAybee i should of reworded my original post. I had absolutly no intention of bidding on these was more curious to how these scams work and so on and so forth. But again thanks for the info.
     
  10. Notoco

    Notoco Member

    On the same site there is an interesting coin for sale:

    N.R.! MUSEUM Bronze Christian Coin (Circa 103 BC)

    I am still trying to figure out a Christian coin from a century before Christ...
     
  11. Spider

    Spider ~

    its fake, it could be the gold and indian on front, and a bunch of pennies behind it all
     
  12. Midas

    Midas Coin Hoarder

    I don't think NTC slabs fake coins, but they sure overgrade them.

    No...they are most likely real, but NTC, and other bottom dwelling TPG's need to be bid at their grade designation minus 5 points (at least for MS grades) and 10 to 20 points for circulated grades.

    SGS is not a legitimate TPG as the eBay seller Aboncon owns and operates this "service" and sells to newbies with the dreams of MS70 or PR70 grades.
     
  13. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I have seen a few nice coins in off name slabs...even a ACG slab...but on a auction like this I wouldn't go near them...only when I can see them IN person and grade them is when they are safe to look at!

    I think if you won it you would get some coins--yes I think you would get what is listed but IT WOULD NOT be worth anywhere near that $$$.

    Speedy
     
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