Medieval Monday!

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  1. JamesEire

    JamesEire Member

    Henry iii penny, Canterbury.
     

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  3. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I think it’s time to break out one of my ‘uggos’ from Normandy! While not pretty, this one is particularly rare (maybe 4 known?)
    Med-05a-FNor-1087-Robert Curthose-D-XXI-17.jpg French Feudal - Normandy
    Robert Curthose, r. 1087-1106
    AR Denier, 20 mm x 0.93 grams
    Obv.: +NOR[MAN]NA. Cross patted with pellets in angles
    Rev.: RI/AV in two lines
    Ref.: Dumas Group D XXI-17, Duplessy 32var., Roberts 3901-9var. (Legros 372 corr.)
    Ex BRN Collection, purchased from Andy Singer June 2012
     
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  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Denar of Louis(Lugwig, Ludvik, Ludovik, etc*) ll, king of Hungary, Bohemia and Croatia, 1526 Louie ll Hungary denar 1516-26 001.JPG Louie ll Hungary denar 1516-26 003.JPG
     
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  5. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @panzerman, that's got to be all the Baybars anyone needs. ...Only trouble for me would be that Edward I (Crusade of 1270) never issued a gold coin to match.
    Anyway, You Rock!
     
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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    It's monday quite often these days isn't it ?

    Here are the three known different portraits of Henri II de Montpensier on testoons

    1603 :
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    1604-1606 :
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    1606-1608 :
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  7. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Although not exactly medieval, by Mathias Corvinus mid-reign Hungary was already a Renaissance kingdom, the denar of Lajos II from the year of the battle of Mohacs posted by @ominus1 reminds me of this:

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    JANOS ZAPOLYA as PRINCE of TRANSYLVANIA (1510-1540) and KING of HUNGARY (1526-1540)
    AR14mm 0.26g silver/billon denar minted in Varad(?), 1527.
    IOHANNES * R * VNGAR * 1527 *, Four-part shield with Hungarian arms (Arpadian stripes, patriarchal cross, Dalmatian leopard heads, Arpadian stripes), wolf in escutcheon.
    PATRONA * * VNGARIE, Crowned Madonna with infant Jesus to her right, I - V (privy mark) in fields.
    Huszar 881, Pohl 265-14, Unger 699s, Rethy II 331

    Notes: This scarce type was minted for Janos Zapolya soon after the disaster at Mohacs in 1526, likely at Varad for circulation in Transylvania as Zapolya claimed the throne of Hungary against the Habsburg interest. 1526 marks the end of the independent Kingdom of Hungary, the south-eastern parts being overrun by the Ottomans while Ferdinand of Habsburg claimed the Kingdom from Vienna. This of course did not go well with local magnates especially in Transylvania, where anti-Habsburg sentiments were high and also supported by the Ottoman Empire. With Ottoman support Zapolya opposed the Habsburgs with some success from 1529 to 1538, when he relented and accepted to name Ferdinand as his successor.

    According to Huszar, Pohl and Unger the privy marks date from 1527 to 1530. But Zapolya only minted in 1527 (and possibly 1530?) as between early 1528 and late 1529, he was on the run following the defeat at Tarcal (September 1527).
     
  8. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Alegandron, that is a very cool medieval cash. I had no idea they got as figurative as that.
    ...And, with apologies, I'll have to ask Mom which counties (Arkansas and ...yep... Missouri) the family was based in. Don't even have an American atlas; that might help jog my memory. Marion County (Wiki'd it) looks a little further west, somehow or other; from here, I couldn't even tell you why.
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..ah yes, and there's another one of the many ways to say and spell it...:D
     
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  10. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @lordmarcovan, that's a magnificent example.
    ...If it helps any, this is Malloy 50, second reign, 1310-24 (after a usurper). I like how Henry barely escaped the siege of Acre in 1291.
     
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  11. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @FitzNigel, not bad! ...And I share your pain....
     
  12. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @ominus1, that has to be the earliest and nicest one I've ever seen. Liking how there are as many versions of his name as there are quarterings on his coat of arms.
     
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  13. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Edward III transitional treaty halfpenny (1361) with mm. cross and two pellets. Rare.
    ex:
    Miss M P Woollnough, Sotheby, 21 February 1921, lot 106
    F W Longbottom, Sotheby, 14 – 15 May 1934, lot 110
    R C Lockett, Glendining, 11-17 October 1956, lot 1308
    J J North, purchased from Spink September 1977
    Lord Stewartby, Spink 242, 29 November 2016, lot 1156
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  14. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Henry VI annulet issue quarter noble of Calais, mm. small lis
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  15. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Alfred 2 line penny, the moneyer DVDIG.
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  16. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Edward IV heavy coinage penny from Durham episcopal mint under Bishop Laurence Booth.
    ex
    R C Lockett, Glendining 11-17 October 1956, lot 1600
    Lord Stewartby 1360c, Spink 242, 29 November 2016
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  17. Edessa

    Edessa Well-Known Member

    Belgium, Looz. Arnold V, AD 1279-1323. AR Esterlin (19mm, 1.16g, 3h). Pollard type. Hasselt mint. Circa AD 1282-1294. Obv: +[COMES AR]nOL[DVS]; Head facing. Rev: [MOn ETA] COM I[TIS]; Long cross diving legend with three pellets in the angles. Ref: Probably Mayhew 62 type (legend stops are obscure due to wear).

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  18. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Just got notice of this one having been sent; an unsold lot from the last Elsen auction. As such, compared to other options, the price was right. (And for collecting purposes, Elsen are My People. ...Looked at their website for years on end before summoning the nerve to actually bid on anything. Since then, I've done very well by them.)
    COINS, COURTRAI, KORTRIJK, PETIT DENIER.jpg
    Flanders: Kortrijk (Courtrai), petit denier c. 1250-1300.
    Obv. shield (perhaps an early version of the civic coat of arms?).
    Rev. C / [V] / R / T
    At the Battle of Courtai /'The Golden Spurs' in 1302, a Flemish civic militia, overwhelmingly composed of infantry, roundly stomped a French army of heavy cavalry. This website, from a group of European 'recreationists' --who are as obsessive as the American variety --is especially good:
    https://www.liebaart.org/gulden_e.htm
    Despite the website's claim that this was the first major victory of infantry over knights, the Scots, under William Wallace, did the same thing at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297. (Robert the Bruce repeated the feat at Bannockburn in 1314, giving the English some practice for their victories of longbows over French knights in 1346 and 1356 ...and, of course, 1415.)
    To quote the website:
    'The Flemings stand guard that night on the battlefield. A battle is but won when the victorious army can hold the battlefield until the next morning. That next day the booty is collected. From the battlefield, apart of the expensive knightly armours, some five hundred pairs of golden spurs are found. This gives the battle its modern name.'
    As I couldn't help saying to the representative at Elsen, "in this sort of context, I like to 'root for the underdog!'"
     
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  19. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Oh, Boy, @robp, for any 15th-c. penny, That is Solid. Yow. If I had a hat to take off, you'd have it.
     
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  20. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @Edessa, your esterlin compares favorably to the two I have, one of them in two pieces, and glued. ...They are very cool.
     
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  21. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    A few pages back I posted an obole of Raoul de Clermont-Nestle from Chateaudun, one of the main figures of the French army at Courtrai in 1302, who also died there.
     
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