2008-P NM 25c Uncirc - DDR-005 or Die Clash or Both?

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  1. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    Looking through some uncirculated state coins. Came across this 2008-P NM 25c coin with what appears to be either a DDR-005 or a Die Clash, or both? The anomaly appears closer to the DDR-005 and while reviewing the pictures at VarietyVista saw the picture describing a Die Clash and mine seems to look very much like it.

    The package says "NM 50 States Comm 25C 2008-P Uncirculated-60" then gives item number of 4576.60. States from Littleton Coin Co. Littleton, NH.

    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.1a.jpg
    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.2a.jpg
    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.2b.jpg

    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.2c.jpg

    Looks very much like the die clash picture shown in VarietyVista: 2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.2d.jpg

    This is another picture of a "normal" 2008-P NM 25c Uncirc coin I have: 2008 P NM 25c Uncirc Normal Reverse.jpg

    Pictures below from VarietyVista. Left shows the die clash and right shows the strong northward spread in the loop of the sun symbol.
    2008PNMDDR005b clash 2.jpg 2008PNMDDR005bb.jpg

    http://www.varietyvista.com/09c WQ Vol 3 States/2008PNMDDR005 quarter.htm

    Why are both shown in the DDR-005 Stage B photo area?

    What say you?

    ~Rob
     
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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Because the clash shows up in the mid stage (B) of the life of the die, along with two die markers.
     
  4. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    And if the other two gouges indicated as the die markers are not there?

    ~Rob
     
  5. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    I have discovered a second 2008-P NM 25c Uncirc coin with similar/same anomaly as previously indicated coin. They are from same bundling of packages as the first coin. It too does not have the other two characterizing die markers as indicated in VarietyVista's DDR-005 Stage B photos.

    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.3d Coin.Number.2.jpg
    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash.3c Coin.Number.2.jpg

    Again, these pictures appear similar to the photos in VarietyVista. The coins do not have gouges above the U in UNITED, nor do they have the abraded hair.

    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash Obv With No Gouge.jpg
    2008 P NM 25c Uncirc DDR.005 Die.Clash Obv Without abraded.jpg

    Could this be another variety?

    ~Rob
     
  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Could be that no-one has sent a coin in to them with an earlier die stage. Stage A says unconfirmed, and stage B is emds with the gouges above U and the abraided hair. The contact e-mail for Dr Wiles is at the bottom of the link you posted. He is a nice man and has helped me in the past
     
  7. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    I will do that. Thanks Expat.

    ~Rob
     
  8. Tankkiller275

    Tankkiller275 Active Member

    I have sent a message to Mr. Wiles at VarietyVista... Awaiting his response.

    ~Rob
     
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