Hi thanks for having this forum ! this is great I have here a great 1734 8 Reales. All I know is that this is one of the nicest coins I have seen of its type. Every example I can find online is either very worn, badly out of shape or corroded. Does anyone have an approximate grade and value for this coin ? If its worth a lot, does anyone know where can I get it slabbed in PERTH Western Australia and should I ?
Are you sure it is authentic? Several fakes are coming out of Asia and Austalia. Not just 8 reales but other silver based older coins. Trade dollars are probably the most common fakes. fake 8
Thanks for the fast reply ! WOW ! No I'm not sure, but I've seen plenty of experts post on here who should know? so lets wait and see what they say
It doesn't seem to be authentic, surely its in too good a condition. Anyway knowing its a copy for sure would be good, maybe someone can tell me more
Check the weight and dimensions against the standards for this coin to get started. You can also check for tell tale signs of a fake bythe die characteristics.
Howdy JakeCoins - Welcome to the Forum !! I can assure you it is fake. It doesn't have anything to do with the condition though. There are quite a few examples in Unc condition.
GDJMSP, my first reaction I saw this coin was "Wow, it's too good to be real". But how did you know, if the condition doesn't matter? I do not see any obvious signs it's a cast piece, or is it? I'm just asking to learn, one never knows when it may come handy...
The reason the condition doesn't matter is because there are plenty of real examples in even better condition. It's not that uncommon - just expensive. The reason I know it is a fake at first glance is because everything about the design on coin is wrong. Take a look at a genuine example and you'll see what I mean. The coin I picture below is from a different year & has a different assayer's mark as expected, but the rest of the design on this coin is the same as it would have been in 1734. obverse reverse
The rim is one of the signs to be sure. But there are many others. Look at the design on the globes - on your coin it is a bunch of crooked lines. On the genuine coin it is a rough map, you can actually make out the continents. Then look at the pillars - see the ribbon going around them. On your coin there are several lines - on the genuin coin are the words PLVS VLTRA. Then there are the crowns, they're wrong too. The words, the shape of the letters and their position on the coin - all wrong. The list goes on - anyone familiar with Spanish colonial coinage would only need a quick glance to know this was a fake.
