Maximinus Daia - MARTI CONSERVATORI

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have a liking for Mars types and have bought many MARTI CONSERVATORI coins over the years, primarily Constantine the Great, occasionally Licinius but this is the first time that I have stumbled across one produced for Maximinus II Daia.

    I might have a go at removing some of the red and white adhesions but the thought of damaging the coin scares me to death.

    Follis
    Obv:– MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– MARTI CONSERVATORI, Mars standing right resting on shield and spear
    Minted in Ticinum (//PT), A.D. 312-313
    Reference(s) – RIC VI Ticinum 123a (S)

    5.03gms. 22.34mm. 0 degrees

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    Does anyone else have any M II D - MARTI CONSERVATORI coins to share.... or just M II D in general, but Mars types of M II D in particular.....
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coin @maridvnvm - it would be great to be able to remove the encrustations but a bit challenging without wrecking the coin I guess.
     
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    In my experience sodium thiosulfate is pretty effective at removing iron oxides without damage to the coin
     
  5. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Hot wheels, have you tried sodium thiosulphate on copper/ bronze coins?
    I have tried it on silver, but not copper.
     
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  6. singig

    singig Well-Known Member

    I will just leave the coin like it is, is beautifully toned.
    If you mechanically remove the white deposits you will have red spots in return(first M.. obverse legend)
     
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  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I have not, only on silver. Worked wonderfully to remove the oxides that hydroxide would not remove.

    I will probably toss a junkeR bronze into thiosulfate Just to see what impacts it has
     
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  8. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Hotwheels, good idea! Let us know.
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is a MARTI CONSERVATORI AVG N for Maxentius:

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    IMP C MAXENTIVS PF AVG
    Mars right with spear and shield, foot on captive.
    RET in exergue.
    RIC Rome 267 variety (unlisted officina, captive seated--not kneeling) "c. 310-311."
    ex Berk in 2000.
     
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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Nice one, @maridvnvm! No Marti Conservatory for me, just this common Genio Augusti from Antioch:

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    Maximinus II Daia, AD 309-313, as Augustus.
    Roman Æ follis, 21.4 mm, 4.88 g, 12 h.
    Antioch, AD 312.
    Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head, right.
    Rev: GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, holding head of Sol and cornucopiae; *|Z //ANT.
    Refs: RIC 164b; Cohen 21; RCV 14840.
     
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  11. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    You really do have a thing for Mars! That's quite the catch!
     
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Good score Martin

    My two MIID are sadly just geniusses, but at least, one is ex @zumbly

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    Maximinus II, Follis - Antioch mint, 2nd officina, AD 310-311
    IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head of Maximinus II right
    GENIO EXERCITVS, Genius standing left holding patera and cornucopia, cressent and S in field, ANT at exergue
    7.28 gr
    Ref : RCV # 14845 (55), Cohen #47


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    Maximinus II Daia (308-313), follis, Alexandria mint, AD 312-313.
    IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head right.
    GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius standing left holding head of Serapis left in right hand, cornucopia in left; star, N and palm-branch in left field, gamma in right, ALE in exergue.
    5.10 gr - 21 mm.
    Ref : RIC VI Alexandria 160b
    From the zumbly collection, Ex CNG

    Q
     
  13. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Constantine also had a thing for Mars.

    Constantine the Great
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    313 A.D., Rome Mint, 2nd Officina
    3.24g, 20.0mm, 6H

    Obverse: IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG,
    Bust of Constantine I, laureate, draped, cuirassed, right

    Reverse: MARTI CO-NSERVATORI,
    Mars, helmeted, draped, cuirassed, standing right, holding reversed spear in right hand and resting left hand on shield

    Exergue: R/F//RS

    Provenance: Ex. eBay 2019

    Reference: RIC VII Rome 6

    Constantine the Great
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    313 - 315 A.D., Treveri Mint, 1st Officina
    4.83g, 22.0mm, 6H

    Obverse: CONSTANTINVS P F AVG,
    Bust of Constantine I, laureate, cuirassed, right

    Reverse: MARTI CON-SERVATORI,
    Mars, helmeted, draped, cuirassed, cloak spread, standing right, holding reversed vertical spear in right hand and resting left hand on shield

    Exergue: T/F//PTR

    Provenance: Ex. Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 2, Lot 239, Ex. TheRed Collection

    Reference: RIC VII Treveri 53

    I don't have a Mars reverse of Maximinus though.

    Maximinus II Daia
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    308 - 313 A.D., Alexandria Mint, 6th Officina
    6.730g, 23.1mm, 12H

    Obverse: GAL VAL MAXIMINVS NOB CAES,
    Head of Maximinus Daia, laureate, right;ties divergent, with pointed truncation

    Reverse: GENIO CA-ESARIS,
    Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, holding patera in right hand and holding cornucopiae in left hand; liquid sometimes flowing from patera

    Exergue: K/(ς on P)//ALE

    Provenance: Ex. CNG Electronic Auction 457, Lot 751 (part of), Ex. Forum Ancient Coins

    Reference: RIC VI Alexandria 99a
     
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