Piavvonius Victorinus

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I don't focus on the Gallic empire but I do dabble occasionally when I see something that I think is relatively interesting. I saw this one, which was not well described and mis-attributed and had to get it. I know that it has issues in that all the obverse legend isn't 100% legible but you can tell exactly what it is. The reverse has some stable green adhesions. It is interesting in that it has the long form of the Emperor's name. The condition isn't unattractive.

    Antoninianus
    Obv:– IMP C M PIAVVONIVS VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left holding two standards
    Minted in mint I. 269 A.D. Issue 1
    Reference:– RIC 108; Elmer 648; AGK (corr.) 5a;

    2.97gms. 20.22mm. 0 degrees

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    It also comes in the shorter form.... which I bought a few years ago

    Obv:– IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left holding two standards
    Reference:– AGK 5b; RIC 109

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  3. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Sorry, my only example, first ancient I ever got (Providentia), is long gone. Lousy flan, solid strike. I miss it!
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ah, i went down that rabbit hole of this year while collecting 3rd century emperors meself.. Victorinus 269-71 Gallic emperor Pax 001.JPG Victorinus 269-71 Gallic emperor Pax 004.JPG
     
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  5. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I agree. That is a nice coin and a good catch.

    I have thought of making a mini-theme out of collecting long-form names. Often emperors begin their coinage with the fullest version of their name and shorten it as time goes on and users became familiar with the emperor.

    I recently posted the long form for Maximian:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-full-name-of-maximian.366118/

    and I have a site on Volusian's name:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/interesting/Volusian.html
    with this coin from Antioch:

    VolusianAntioch.jpg
    23-22 mm. 4.05 grams. 6:00 die axis.
    RIC 237b, page 186 (under Treboninianus Gallus)
    Sear 9772

    IMP C V AF GAL VEND VOLUSIANO AVG
    which RIC IV [page 158 in part 3] thinks might abbreviate
    C. Vibius Af[inius] Gal[lus] Vend[umanianus] Volusianvs

    I suppose the name "Vendumanianus" is attested elsewhere (It is not the expansion of VEND that leaps to mind!)

    Four dots below the bust and reverse figure = officina 4.
    VBERITAS AVG, Uberitas (Fertility) standing left, holding purse and cornucopia.
     
  6. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

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  7. dougsmit

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    Great idea for a mini specialty!
     
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I don't have any with the longest form of his name. :( The dude was certainly king of the raggedy flan, though, wasn't he?

    IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS PF AVG. It was in a group lot that worked out to $8.83 a coin.

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    Victorinus, AD 269-271.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.63 g, 20.1 mm.
    Cologne (though CNG attributes this coin to Treveri), AD 269/70.
    Obv: IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS PF AVG, radiate, draped bust, r.
    Rev: FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing l., holding two standards.
    RIC-109; Cohen-36; AGK-5b; De Witte pl. XXVI, 22; Sear-unlisted.

    IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG:

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    Victorinus, AD 269-271.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.11 g, 19.0 mm, 5 h.
    Cologne, AD 270-271.
    Obv: IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG, radiate and draped bust, right.
    Rev: PAX AVG, Pax standing left, holding olive branch and scepter; V in left field, * in right field.
    Refs: RIC 118; Cohen 79; RCV 11175; Hunter 11.

    And another:

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    Victorinus, AD 269-271.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.29 g, 20.1 mm, 6 h.
    Cologne, AD 270-271.
    Obv: IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG, radiate and draped bust, right.
    Rev: INVICTVS, Sol advancing left, raising right hand and holding whip in left; * in left field.
    Refs: RIC 114; Cohen 49; RCV 11170; De Witte 27; Hunter 7.
     
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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Well if you are running a small, western outcrop of the Empire then you find yourself needing to produce some coins and you go shopping at "Ragged Flans R Us" what do you expect.

    There are also a range of other shortenings of Piannonius. The shortest I have is PI....

    Obv:– IMP C PI VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms
    Minted in Southern mint. struck 269 A.D. at mint II
    Reference:– RIC 65; Elmer 703; AGK (corr.) 21b

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