double die?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by marmots, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. marmots

    marmots back from the dead

    i have a 1983 lincoln cent With no mint mark

    i know that this is a listing in the redbook and think that this might be that

    picture: IMG_2556.jpg
     
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  3. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    The true 1983 DDR has doubling in all of the reverse lettering. Yours appears to be strike doubling.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    strike doubling, but keep looking.

    DDR-1 is clearest on the ONE CENT.
     
  5. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    I would like to see more pictures of the Reverse showing more of the Lettering and the Memorial Building. Until then, I am going to withhold my opinion!


    Frank
     
  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I will not come up with a finale conclusion until you post better clearer pics to determine a doubled die. So if you can please post more of the lettering that would help us I tried to improve your pic that didn't do much . I do see a raised image on the letter T and some notching Here's a pic of a true doubled die 83

    Jazzcoins Joe
     

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  7. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    That's a really cool coin. --- Buy or find?

    Hello Marmots,

    That's a really cool coin. Did you find it in circulation or did you buy it someplace? It could be the big one. Compare yours to the photo of DDR-1 that jazzcoins posted.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  8. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I would say there are some simularities but we need to see more of the elements of the coin Please post them MARMOTS . I have to exclude die deteriorstion doubling there's no signs of that in the fields but maybe Machine doubling I have examined the coin I believe it is a Doubled die .I cropped both coins to put them in perspective. The true doubled die is the first coin, the ops coin is second what do you all think now .

    Jazzcoins joe
     

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  9. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Look at the OP's picture. There is no doubling in the parts of the words that are visible - especially the "E PL" and "UN". Compare those letters with the genuine DDR. How can you think that his may be the real thing?
     
  10. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I said I believe it is a double die I did not say for sure, We need better pics in order to make an accurate conclusion on the coin we need to see the other elements first

    I did not give a definate answer or conclusion as of yet. I know it's not die deterioration doubling I don't see evidence of that in the fields or anywhere.

    I did not rule out MD either even through the images do look raised ,can;t tell for sure by his pics.


    The doubling does not have to be on all elements of the coin to be a doubled die it could be a new variety new ones are discovered every day.

    Jazzcoins joe
     
  11. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Jazz,

    I will come to your defense and state that there appears to be something other than typical Machine (Strike) Doubling going on with the coin but need pictures of the remaining lettering, of the Memorial Building and also one showing the whole Reverse to make a more definitive assessment.

    I will say this about the coin. The Secondary (doubled) portion of the letters does not appear to be totally flat and shelf-like. Also, I can see no evidence of pinch-off (the slicing off of a portion of the letters which create the Secondary letters) typical of Machine Doubling and which results in the Primary letters being thinner than normal.


    Frank
     
  12. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    I believe if you had sharper photos you would see this is MDD…not a doubled die.

    Larry Nienaber
     
  13. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    The OP was comparing his coin to the one referenced in the Red Book and questioning whether his was the same. As I pointed out, it clearly is not the same. The possibility that his is a different DDR is an entirely different question that can only be definitely determined with a full photo of all the elements of the reverse. Further speculation and comments are useless without more details.
     
  14. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    I'm going with the group that wants to see better pictures and more of them.

    The E PLURIBUS UNUM on the first coin in the thread is not right for the DDR in question but the other lettering shows something that needs to be looked at further.

    Until I can see more, I can't say what this is.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  15. marmots

    marmots back from the dead

    sorry guys i haven't checked up on this post in a while now last i checked there was 1 post i will try to get a better picture but i semm to have misplaced it... in a bag of 200 pennies and i have really bad equipment that shot was through a magnifier so ill do my best thx for the posts
     
  16. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    LOL! Nice. :eek: :rolling:
     
  17. marmots

    marmots back from the dead

    found it but still cant get any good pics
    IMG_2588.jpg IMG_2591.jpg IMG_2590.jpg IMG_2589.jpg
     
  18. andy21us

    andy21us Coin Hoarder

    I would say strike doubling.
     
  19. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello Marmots,

    Thanks for posting the full coin. It does not appear to be the big one listed in the Red Book. If it were the Red Book listing, you would see doubling at the pick up point ONE of ONE CENT.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  20. konabear

    konabear Member

    Here is bunny

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