New beautiful EUBOIA Histiaia! Got results to Hirsch 221 or know about "Vineyard collection"?

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Just won this wonderful coin with a noted provenance! The reason I purchased it was due to the unique style and provenance, as this type is commonly faked. That and Hirsch is a reputable house from 2 decades ago. Though the coin has an uncommon style, it's a known and highly desirable type for the series and buying from Nomos and that provenance is reassuring.
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    EUBOIA. Histiaia. 3rd-2nd centuries BC. Tetrobol (Silver, 15 mm, 2.06 g, 9 h). Vine-wreathed head of nymph Histiaia to right, wearing pendant earring and necklace. Rev. IΣTIAIE-ΩN Nymph seated to right on stern of galley, holding stylis in her left hand and resting her right on the deck; on the side of the stern, wing; below to left, monogram, labrys. ANS 1944.100.24022. BCD Euboia -. Lovely style; well-struck and rather uncommon. Minor die break on reverse, otherwise, very fine.

    From the Vineyard Collection, ex Hirsch 221, May 2002 ,219 (part of lot). Ex: Nomos Obols

    And talking about that sweet uncommon obverse :artist: check out the labyrs/bipennis hiding on the reverse:wideyed:. Get outa here!:woot:

    Please help if you know anything about the Vineyard connection, have access to Hirsch 21 results, and/or can help further my provenance and of course post your EUBOIA Histiaia or anything beautiful that helps sail your boat!
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    A nice example.

    Mine's the "Jimmy Durante" Variety

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    Histiaia, Euboia
    340 - 330 B.C.
    Silver Tetrobol
    O: Head of nymph Histiaia right wearing an earring, hair bound in sakkos (sphendone) wreathed with vine
    R: Nymph seated upon a stern of galley holding a mast with cross-piece (trophy stand), grapes on vine to left; wing on prow; IΣTIAI-EΩN
    14mm
    2.4g
    BMC Central Greece p.127, 24-25; Sear 2495

    Slightly overstruck. Die break on nose.
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    lovely lil coin Ryro....:) Syracruse coins, Histiaia tetrobol 003.JPG Syracruse coins, Histiaia tetrobol 004.JPG
     

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  5. Shea19

    Shea19 Well-Known Member

    Congrats on a great pickup @Ryro ! The Vineyard Collection has coins that are all related to wine in some way. I don’t know who the owner of the collection is/was, but he definitely chose one of the better collecting themes I’ve ever seen. Nomos has been selling from this collection over the past couple years, very impressed by the size of the collection.

    I was excited to win one from the Vineyard collection today too. My coin has a satyr (known for drinking way too much wine).

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    CIMMERIAN BOSPOROS. Pantikapaion. Circa 325-310 BC.(Bronze, 20 mm, 5.58g), Wreathed head of satyr to left. Rev. ΠΑΝ Bow and arrow.
    From the Vineyard Collection
     
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  6. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    Nice style indeed first thing I would do, would be to ask the auctioneer to confirm the provenance they noted. Hirsch 211 took place in 2000, so something is wrong

    https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/an...__thalers_and_medals__medieval/43788/amp.aspx
     
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  7. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Nice new coin! The Histiaia tetrobols come in a great variety of styles:
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    Euboia, Histiaia, AR tetrobol, ca. 196–146 BC. Obv: head of Maenad wearing wreath of grapes r.; Rev: [IΣTI]-AIEΩN; nymph Histiaia seated right on prow decorated with wing, holding stylis; below, labrys and unclear monogram. 16mm, 2.34g. Ref: BMC 59–64.

    The coin above upgraded this one, which will be up for sale in the bargain bin in AMCC3:
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  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great score, Ryro! Interesting style, nice toning, and excellent little bipennis. I don't know anything about the Vineyard Collection, but I think it's safe to say the collector probably liked a little drink or two every now and then. :D
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cool coin, @Ryro ! Very cool obverse.

    Mine is hidden on the reverse, also.
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    Troas Tenedos late 5th-early 4th C BCE AR Obol 8mm 0.60g Janiform Hera-Zeus - Labrys within incus sq RARE SNG Ash 1235 HGC 6 387
     
  10. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    What a hilariously placed die break!
    It looks like a satyrs nose, ala @Shea19 's new Vineyard collection score (lovely Pan with a fun provenance, btw).
    Here's mine (though, not from the Vineyard collection I probably had done libations when it arrived):
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  11. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Great coin @Ryro! Congratulations. I won some coins yesterday as well during the auction, many interesting coins. I will probably open some topics and make a write up about them, but do want to share one of the coins.
    It is a coin from Athens from another time period than I am used to collect from. Also a very obscure issue in my opinion, I can find barely any other examples and information about it.

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    ATTICA. Athens. 39-37 BC. (Bronze, 18.5 mm, 4.75 g, 12 h). Head of youthful Dionysos to right. Rev. A-ΘE Athena advancing to right, holding spear with her right hand and aegis. Kroll 140. Svoronos pl. 25, 29. Nearly very fine.

    From the Vineyard Collection, ex Classical Numismatic Group 50, 23 June 1999, 732.

    The depiction of Dionysos is extremely unusual in the Athenian coinage. This coin is struck to honour of Mark Antony, referring to his title as "Neos (new/young) Dionysos" attained in 39 BC.
     
  12. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Interesting! Thanks so much. I emailed Nomos. Hopefully they can shed some light on which auction this coin was purchased from. Maybe it is just a typo or something to that affect. I'll let you know what they say in response.
     
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  13. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    I was interested in a coin for which I did not bid in the end. It turned out it was from a different Leu auction than the one in the description. I think the winemaker was not very careful in cataloging his collection or his handwriting is not easily legible. Nomos should have checked before reproducing these.
     
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  15. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Well, the plot thickens. They (Nomos) are saying that the seller hand wrote these and that upon looking closer it is Hirsch auction 221 and not auction 211. So, now I am looking for anybody that might be able to help and check their old catalogue.
    Just like the 211, 221 is sold out on Vcoins, but the dates align. https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/an...alers_and_medals__medieval/44067/Default.aspx
    Any help verifying this is appreciated :)
     
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  16. Khaghogh

    Khaghogh Member

    I have a copy of the Hirsch 221 catalog and your coin is illustrated on plate 9 (lot 219). I couldn't find the prices realized for the auction. It might be available on the Hirsch website.
     

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  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Wahoo!!! Thank you so much! Feels great to get that verified. Sadly, their website only goes back to around auction 270. I am not so worried about what it went for (though, it would be cool to know) but wanted to make sure my provenance was on point...and thanks to you I know it was!
     
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