What's behind Athena's head?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roerbakmix, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    This coin has been in my collection for a few months, but until now, I had no time to study it. It's a neat coin, with a nice even green patina and enough details.
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    GREECE, Anonymous. Denomination: AE unit, minted: Southern Lucania, Herakleia; 300-100 BC
    Obv: Helmeted head of Athena to the right
    Rev: |-HΡAKΛEIΩN, Herakles standing left, lion’s skin on left arm and club on left shoulder
    Weight: 4.32g; Ø:17mm. Catalogue: any suggestions are welcome. Provenance: acq. 06-2020

    Looking at these photos, I noticed something behind Athena's head:
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    I wasn't able to find my coin in ACsearch or Sixbid (search query: lucania hera* athena standing -nomos -stater -didrachm -diobol -drachm). There were about 20-30 bronze coins, all smaller (around 12 mm) and lighter (around 2 gram). None of these had a similar 'thing' behind Athena's head.

    So: any suggestions? Also, suggestions to pinpoint a catalogue reference is welcome!
     
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  3. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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  4. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thank you @Broucheion. There is a difference in weight and diameter (your references: 12-13mm, c. 2 gram, my coin 17mm and 4.32g). Is it indeed the same coin?
     
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  5. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi,

    Not the same but similar to yours.
     
  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice coin! It is HGC 1, 1013 (R2) as "Denomination C (14-18 mm, 5-8.5g)" :

    "Obv. Head of Athena in Attic helmet r. PELTE to l. (if any). Rev. |-HΡAKΛEIΩN. Herakles standing l., holding phiale and club. Struck c. 280-150 BC."

    Yours is nicer than the British Museum example.

    The ones linked by Broucheion are listed in HGC as "Denomination D (11-15mm, 1.95-3.0g)".
     
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  7. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thank you @zumbly. The rarity (R2) probably explains why I can't find a similar example in ACsearch and Sixbid.

    So what is a Pelte?
     
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  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

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  9. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Thanks @zumbly. Learned something new today.
     
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