1871 IHC with no LIBERTY a PCGS AU 50?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mralexanderb, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    How can this coin be graded an AU 50 when the word LIBERTY cannot be read on the head band? Also, the ribbon is showing NO DIAMONDS. What were they (PCGS) thinking. It could be a weak strike but how does this coin get an AU grade?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320329305009&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

    I was looking for an 1871 with a bold N in the word CENT on the reverse when I came across this specimen.

    What do you think is going on here with the coin an the grade?

    Bruce
     
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  3. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    Here's one photo from the auction.













    Bruce
     

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  4. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    maybe it's just a blurry picture?
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    The seller says:

    Perhaps the PCGS the seller is referring to is his cousin Paul Christopher Gary Smith.
     
  6. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    Maybe that's the case here but the strike looks mushy around the LIBERTY, the ribbon and around the ear.

    Bruce
     
  7. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    I don't think the photos are clear enough to tell what is, or isn't, there.
     
  8. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    It looks like the photo is just out of focus for this area! I copied the picture to my PC and zoomed in to 200% and the "LIBERTY" is there, though blurry as all get out.


    Frank
     
  9. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    It's just a bad picture.
     
  10. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    It's the blur from the pic's ;)
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I agree just a blurry picture of a weak strike on liberty. At least that is my opinion.
     
  12. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    picture too blurry.
     
  13. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I've asked for better pictures but I got no answer. I guess the seller figures he'll sell it just because it's in the PCGS slab. He's got enough bidders who'll buy the holder without seeing the coin.

    Bruce
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Yep - but he/she might not get what the coin is really worth and it could be a really nice coin for the price. But with blurry pictures that is an auction I will skip.
     
  15. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    NEW PHOTO No big difference

    The seller finally posted another photo of this so called AU 50 IHC. I still think something is very wrong with the grading of the coin. From the newest photo you can see a vague LIBERTY and maybe part of 2 diamonds on the ribbon.

    It looks like he just lightened the photo.

    Is this a weak strike or a worn coin? I would have trouble paying VF-XF money for this coin.

    Bruce
     

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    Hobo Squirrel Hater

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