Need help attributing this coin

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  1. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    In my possession for 40+ years. Trust someone can help me attribute the coin illustrated below fully.

    Weight: 3.95 grams
    Diameter: ~22.5mm
    Metal: copper-My primitive Rube Goldberg setup doesn't get the color right. In hand it appears dark brown.

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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Your coin is Licinius I, from Thessalonica and struck A.D. 312- 313.


    Licinius I
    A.D. 312- 313
    IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG NN; Jupiter standing left, right holding Victoriola, left leaning on sceptre, at feet left, an eagle with a wreath in its beak.
    In ex. •TS•A•
    RIC VI Thessalonica 60
     
  4. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

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  5. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    your fingers are faster than mine, plus you know this era
     
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  6. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Pretty nice Licinius 1 “follis.”

    I especially like how the “IOVI” looks more like “IOIII,” since the V was engraved with two rather vertical lines instead of angled.
     
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  7. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Many thanks to all who responded. I can finally put this one to bed.
     
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's one of Constantine I from the same issue and mint and which follows yours numerically in the RIC catalog.

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    Constantine I, AD 307-337.
    Roman billion follis, 3.56 g, 23.6 mm, 6 h.
    Thessalonica, AD 312-13.
    Obv: IMP C CONSTANTINVS P F AVG, laureate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGG NN, Jupiter, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing front, head left, holding Victory on globe in right hand and leaning on scepter with left hand; at feet to left, eagle holding wreath in beak; -/-//•TS•Є•.
    Refs: RIC vi, p. 519, 61b; Cohen 310; RCV 15972.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    For about a century centering on this coin it is not at all unusual to see A, M, N, V with lines that don't come together when we might expect them to using modern ideas of alphabet. These are not errors.

    The original Licinius is one that included an extra LIC from his full name Valerius Licinianus Licinius. There are even a few that have Licinianus spelled out. The one below even doubles the N's in both names. There are several periods from several mints. Note here the A's look like H's but the V's are pointed. Expect variations.
    VAL LICINNIANVS LICINNIVS from Cyzicus
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  10. SRSNUM

    SRSNUM Well-Known Member

    Thanks too for the further expansion and explanation of two members. I think others appreciate their time and effort in doing so, as do I.
     
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  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Wow ! You guys are truly the "yoda's " of ancients .
     
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