My first BIG follis

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  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I got this in a lot of 4 large coins of: Diocletian, Augustus, Trajan Decius, and Plautilla. ALL FOR $14.08. Each coin cost an astounding $3.52. Awesome

    I was mainly interested in this large reformed follis of Diocletian. This is now the second-largest imperial coin I own, second only to a rather oblong As of Claudius I.

    It's nothing spectacularly special, but the price was right and now I'm the proud owner of a large follis.

    I like the text on the reverse: Sacred Money of the City (I think that's what it translates to). It then goes on to indicate AVGG ET CAESS, meaning Augustae (2x) and Caesarae (2x) - indicating the whole tetrarchy!

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    Ruler: Diocletian
    Obv: Laureate head right. IMP C DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG.
    Rev: Moneta standing left holding scales and cornucopia. SAC MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS N N
    Mint: Rome
    Mintmark: R crescent P
    Diam: 27mm
    Weight: 9.1g
    Reference: RIC VI 109a
     
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  3. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @hotwheelsearl, as you will know, just lately, in the thread about the Constantine folles of Trier, @Al Kowsky mentioned how later Romans are still underserved by the current state of scholarship. You (and Diocletian) just eloquently reemphasized the point.
     
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  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Hi, the proper plural for Augustus is Augusti and for Caesar is Caesares.
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I had no clue what I was talking about.
     
  6. seth77

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  7. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Can't beat that price - nice pick ups!! Sounds like a very fun lot.
    It is amazing that you can find some very nice coins of this era for reasonable prices. I have really enjoyed collecting the large folles of the Tetrarchy.

    I have two folles of Diocletian.
    The first is an inexpensive $10 pickup - its actually quite nice in hand with a lot of its silvering left. I'd like to blame the silvering for the poor photograph - but its not to blame .. I am.

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    OBV:IMP CCVAL DIOCLETIANVS PFAVG.
    Laureate bust of Diocletian facing right
    REV: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Reverse depicts Genius standing facing left holding patera and cornucopia.
    HTA in exergue. From Hereclea mint (26.5 mm)



    My next one was purchased a couple of months ago.. it was in the $50 range..

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    OBV: IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG
    Bust Laureate, right
    REV: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae.
    Cyzicus Mint Struck 295-299AD (quite large at 29mm)
     
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  8. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I love these, heavier the better.
     
  9. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Beautiful Rome mint follis. Here's mine:

    Constantius I Chlorus
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    303 - 305 A.D., Rome Mint, null Officina
    9.287g, 30.3mm, 6H

    Obverse: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES,
    Head of Constantius Chlorus, laureate, right

    Reverse: SAC MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS NN,
    Moneta, draped, standing left, holding scales in right hand and cornucopiae in left hand

    Exergue: -/-//R(crescent)T

    Provenance: Ex. Forum Ancient Coins 2019

    Reference: RIC VI Rome 112a
     
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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    What a deal, @hotwheelsearl!

    Here's a SACRA MON of Diocletian. I wish the reverse legend was completely on the flan, but I like the coin anyway.

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    Diocletian, AD 284-305.
    Roman billon follis, 10.80 g, 23.6 mm, 7 h.
    Rome, AD 302-305.
    Obv: IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, Laureate head, right.
    Rev: SACRA MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS NN, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae; star in right field, R P in exergue.
    Refs: RIC vi, p. 362, 103a; Cohen 434; RCV 12815.
     
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  11. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I, too, like big folles. Here is a page on the SACRA MONETA type:

    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/SACRAMONETA.html

    In this case "VRB", "the city", is Rome.

    The citation needs to mention the mint. Any given number appears many times in RIC VI, once for each mint. Say "RIC VI Rome 109a."

    Here is a similar coin for Constantius:
    Constantius1SACMONVRB09137.jpg

    Constantius
    27 mm. 9.55 grams.
    CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES

    SAC MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS NN

    R<crescent upward>T
    RIC Rome 112a "c. 303-5"

    I repeat the link to the page:
    http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/SACRAMONETA.html
     
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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I, too, really like these large, post-reform nummi (or folli). Here's one of my favorites:
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    Bronze Nummus
    Ticinum mint, A.D. 295-296
    Obv: MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES
    Rev: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI - Genius, modius on head, naked but for chlamys hanging from shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae
    ST in exergue
    RIC 30b
    28mm, 9.9g.
     
  13. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Paid $7 for mine , still a bargain imho:

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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great new additions for a low, low price.
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'd like to see the Plautilla. I assume it is a Provincial but large ones unless really trashed are worth $3.52 at least.
     
  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Here it is:
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    there’s absolutely nothing left on the reverse, but at least the face is pretty nice...
     
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