BB'ed ? Why?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by rlm's cents, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I sent this coin into PCGS to be slabbed. It came back BB'ed. I have no clue what they are talking about. The coin is actually somewhat darker than my pics and definitely not as bright as the one reverse pic.

    The obverse has more toning than I managed to catch (mostly blue) and the reverse is more subtle than it appear in the pic.
     

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  3. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    They said Questionable color???
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Nope! and not cleaned either.
     
  5. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Hum, interesting. Well I dont see any planchet flaws or anything else they might not like. And if it was questionable authenticity, I would expect to see a D mint mark.

    The coin shows nice clean surfaces free of hairlines. I think Ill have to pay close attention to this thread.
     
  6. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    hmm weird, questionable color? that's nice IMO!
    EDIT: wow, really, then I have no idea..
     
  7. TwoSon

    TwoSon Senior Member

    I wonder if they had a good number of these come in recently?
     
  8. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Did they specify why it was bodybagged? I didn't see anywhere where you said it was color.

    I see what appear to be some decent-sized scratches on the obverse. That could be why.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That is a hair on the obverse. There is some scratching on the reverse, but that is not it either. The said "Altered Surface". Now that you know what they said, just where are they talking about? I fail to see anything wrong. I have showed it to ~5 "experts (prior to submission), and all said it should get 63 or 64.
     
  10. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    That's not a V.D.B. I see on Lincoln's shoulder, is it?
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I do not know what you think you are seeing, bu tI see nothing resembling a VDB anywhere on this coin either on the pics or in hand.
     
  12. PeaceJoeMorgan

    PeaceJoeMorgan New Member

    I'm not familiar with strike issues with early Lincoln cents, is it common for the O in ONE on the reverse to be so weak? Are they concerned it could be counterfeit?
     
  13. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I can only think of two possibilities.

    1. The felt the toning was artificial, or
    2. It was close to the end of the year and they were overbudget on slabs so decided to BB a few submissions to meet the 2008 goals necessary for executive bonuses. Collector's Universe stock has been hammered after all.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    As for the "O" in ONE, they are commonly weak. They did not say counterfeit and no one else has noticed anything. But, until I know what they are talking about, the best I can say is I don't think so.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Shouldn't #1 then say "Questionable Color"? I did get a couple of those.
    #2 - now there's a possibility.
     
  16. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Send it back
     
  17. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    They may have been suspect of some of the coloring on the coin! Also, from the discolorations above "ONE CENT" to the rim and on the Wheat tassells, someone may have removed some corrosion, then retoned it. Some corrosion or spotting may have also been removed below "RICA" in AMERICA, thus the scratches. Just a thought!


    Frank
     
  18. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Nice looking coin even with the questionable color.
     
  19. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    When a coin is determined to be a problem coin.
    altered surface, questionable color, not genuine, blah blah blah, do 3 of the graders still have to agree on that just like the grading process? Or is it one person says it so it is labeled so?
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Those scratches are kind of funky, but I see no evidence of anything being removed in either area. The luster appears to be in tact between the scratches both on the top and bottom.

    And Harryj, they did not say that the color was questionable.
     
  21. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Try NGC or ANACS maybe? I just purchased this one, NGC slabbed it.
     

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