why i hate collecting coins

My wife tells me I should take before and after shots but I always forget to...it was in a lot of real filthy coins, and it was the least filthy, just had a nice old coating of grime on it, most of the coins had a sticky substance as well....go figure.

I went ahead and posted about it here:

http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t45588/#post489880

 

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I never had $100,000 to spend.

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Ruevain

 

Neither did I, it took me 10 years to pay off the loans. Pretty easy to figure out where I went to school and what year I graduated, but since you have already seen the degree, no need really.

I value my education, it is just that I have not gained monetarily from it. If I worked in my field of study, I would be a much more wealthy and unhappy individual.

 

Yeah, but I like the one where you go to the very next table and drop some big bucks on other coins that you need, making sure that the rude Dealer see's that you are making a large transaction. Then you walk back over and state bluntly to the rude Dealer that they lost a big sale just because they had to be an A&% and pre-judge you based on your tatoos.


Frank

 

In all business settings, and for that matter social settings, people are rightfully judged by their attire. Its a fact. We communicate with our dress, style and manners, as much as we do with our wallet and our mouths. to think that one would be treated the same dressed like a motorcycle gang member as one does in a tux is the height of lunacy.

If you dropped a big wade of cash on the table next someone who simply and politely says, as was in the stated in the case, "you know that is a very expensive coin", your only cutting yourself off of paths to positive social interactions, which is probably the point of that kind of dress in the first place. Obviously such dress is an attempt to define an identity, one which is separate and distinct from the general population and which is know by all to be a bit threatening.

Ruben

 

thats the idea huntsman. I love to throw it in someones face when i can, especially after a rude encounter!

 

coinnewbie - I understand your frustration. No one likes to be judged wrongly by appearances. Unfortunately, this appears to be human nature. Research has shown that in employment interviews, interviewers make judgements within 5 seconds whether they would consider hiring a person. That is obviously ridiculous, but my point is you can anticipate and overcome something similar happening (first impressions) in dealer interactions by dressing neatly and covering your tatoos with long sleeves. I know that probably angers you, but you won't "win" anything by cursing them out. After all, you may want a particular coin that the dealer has and it would be to your advantage to remove the prejudice before it starts. It's all about your collection, not a crusade to change people who won't or can't change. Now, after reading this bit of unsolicited advice, you can tell me to go where the sun doesn't shine!

 

I disagree - don't judge a book by its cover. It takes nothing to keep an open mind and be polite until you learn who you are dealing with.

 

But catbert we are not talking about an interview - we are talking about a potential customer walking up for a potential sale. It should not matter if they look like a biker, a kid, a cheerleader - you should start out by treating them all the same. Why pre-judge a person for a potential sale? I must be missing something.

 

There is nothing to disagree with. I didn't make a statement of opinion. What I said was factual and withstands empirical study. Its as true as the Earth is Round.

Rubn

 

mark - I was making an analogy about first impressions, not whether it was right or wrong - it is just a reality. So, one can keep fighting the good fight and miss out on a potential desirable coin (by getting disgusted and leaving before examining the desired coin) or adapt and not let other's prejudice affect his objective. Is that more clear?

 

Can't disagree, but my point was about getting the coin one wants and how to do just that given these obstacles. The advice can be ignored.

 

Dang - when did the earth get flat? And yes - I can disagree with any study. A "study" does not make a fact.

And yes catbert you make sense. If one out of three dealers does this, then I still have two nicer dealers to work with. In my opinion only - I can always wait until a nice dealer gets a coin I want. I am one of those people who if I saw a dealer be rude to someone I might walk away myself. I can't imagine ever having to put up with someone rude just to get a coin I want at a better price - that is just me. But I do understand what you are saying.

 

mark - I too will not do business with a rude dealer under the assumption that there are others offering the same material. But if there was a coin I really wanted and it wasn't available by another dealer, I'd find a way to buy the coin assuming all other factors are equal excepting the rudeness. But, that's just me. :eating: OK, now I've beaten this horse sufficiently and will move on!

 

OH NO - now I am not a natural human. Notice the smiley face. I don't think it is "human nature" I think it is a "personal nature". So I agree with your statement if you change "human" to "person". Each person gets to make a choice. I also believe if you go by generation you would see different trends on what was acceptable appearance and what was not.

 

look, i dont go to shows on a crusade to make people like me. the the f-bomb i spoke of is not usually loud where i make a scene. I understand that when you go to a job interview you are to look your best. but this is not a job interview. And i know not everyone is as rude as these few dealers, but its just aggravating when things like this happen. I never had anything like this happen when i visit our art dealer, and because of the great service we received, we have spent almost $5,000 there. My local coin shop owner made me feel incredibly welcome my first time there, and i cant tell you how much money i have spent there. its like someone else said, everyone is a potential customer. if you are in the business of selling items, why treat people differently by the way they look. my money spends like everyones.

 

sorry, I'm still trying to figure everything out.:headbang:

 

Yes - it is a fact and discussing this is a waste of band width. All kinds of dress are forms of communication and have been from tribal days. It isn't disputable, at least not in an academic sense. You can say anything you want on this, of course, there is freedom of speech. It would still be wrong. Argue against evolution, that would be an easier task.

Ruben