Can you see marks?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Peter Economakis, Sep 29, 2020.

  1. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    I'm not planning on purchasing this but curious.
    Being sold as a no D. I think I see signs of scratching/filing and a tiny bit of the first 2 missing off the bottom. I don't see the similar scratch marks on the rest of the coin.
    Does anyone see what I think I see? Capture.PNG
     
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  3. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I don't like anything about this one. i find it suspect. only the one picture, no reverse?
     
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  4. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    I didn't want to give the sellers info. I actually snipped the pic of the front from a really enlarged pic but it still came out a bit small.
    It's 1 of only 2 1922 no D Lincolns for sale from usacoinbook.com.
    The coin looks cleaned and maby somewhat sandblasted front and back.
    Its just to clean and played with considering the reverse wheat leafs look worn.
    This 2nd look I took really made me realize its kinda of a fraud??
     
  5. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

     
  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I see what you are referring to and I'd walk away quickly . . . in fact run from that coin.
     
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  7. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    considering usa coin book has the below as a listing and it doesn't exist, I have to believe they shouldn't be trusted at all for anything. LOL I mean they actually have a picture of something rumored to exist that's never been authenticated. it's like they believe in bigfoot or something!

    1996 Lincoln Memorial Cent : Wide AM
    Copper Plated Zinc Penny
    Mintage: N/A

    Minted at: philadelphia (no mint mark)

    Designer - Engraver: Frank Gasparro

    Metal Composition: 97.5% Zinc - 2.5% Copper after 1982

    Diameter: 19 mm

    Mass / Weight: 2.5 grams

    What This Coin Looks Like (Obverse, Reverse, Mint Mark Location, Special Features, etc.):
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    The US Mint produced two major varieties of the 1996 Lincoln Memorial Cent (Penny). The most common variety for 1996 is the close "AM" variety. Although the one shown above is the rarer wide "AM" variety.

    The close "AM" meant that the letters "A" and "M" were very close and almost touching while the wide "AM" had the two letters separated much more. In Addition: The initials "FG" was closer to the Lincoln Memorial Building on the wide "AM" variety and it was further away on the close "AM" variety. The difference between the close "AM" and wide "AM" varieties is shown in the example image below. Click the image to enlarge:

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    Coin Value Chart: Typical Coin Prices, Values and Worth in USD based on Grade/Condition
    Good
    (G-4)
    Very Good
    (VG-8)
    Fine
    (F-12)
    Very Fine
    (VF-20)
    Extremely Fine
    (EF-40)
    About Uncirculated
    (AU-50)
    Uncirculated
    (MS-60)
    Uncirculated
    (MS-65)
    Proof
    (PR-65)

    they don't list any values of course.

    Link to the page, but I copy/pasted because I know a lot of folks don't like links on here.
    https://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/5681/small-cents/lincoln-memorial-cent/1996-P/wide-am/

    my opinion that site is a joke.
     
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  8. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    I haven't bought from that sight but have thought of it:eek:
    They do have some feedback scores but one seller with 0 feedback is selling $1 .999 Liberty's and his add flat out says "cheaper than ebay" Yikes!
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It would be best if you forgot about this coin and if you're really interested in a 1922 no D there are plenty of other more reputable places to go find one.
     
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  10. goossen

    goossen Senior Member

    I think the D was surgically removed.
     
  11. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    I was really only looking at prices and came across it.

    Yup goosen, the few odd marks below the date and under the first 2 are not anywhere on the rest of the coin. Plus its been cleaned to make the surgically removed marks blend in if anyone agrees??
    My last wheatback needed is the Holy Grail 09S vdb. I can live without the 22 no D in my set for now anyways.. I will never say never as this hobby is addicting!
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Please don't take offence, none intended but 1) site not sight 2) $1,999 not $1 .999 (I guess) and 3) what exactly is a Liberty?
     
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  13. Peter Economakis

    Peter Economakis Well-Known Member

    No offence at all;) and thanx.
    No excuse on my part, I just rushed to post and should off wrote Walking Liberty .999 Silver coins.
    The $1 is how some label these .999 1oz coins and the decimal point blended in to look like the $1,999 price.
    I really can see confusion:eek:
     
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