Grime removal from wheat penny?

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  1. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Here’s the obverse not as bad but still has that issue.. I think I’m better off leaving her
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Acetone has been alleged to be bad for copper coins (@GDJMSP ) but if you have some xylene, it just might work wonders.
     
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  4. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    I’m almost nervous to try anything just due to this date and mint and plus I’m selling it I feel like whoever the rightful owner will be should make this decision maybe idk like I stated I completely messed up an Indian..
     
  5. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Anyone have an eye for fakes or common issues for this date and mint? I’d prefer to get this one graded out but not if it would come back brown as it would not be enough for profit turnaround.. also that’s a fiber on the reverse I freaked out and checked after editing the photo
     

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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You've only been a member since April. Stick around, I've been here for 5 years. You have no idea how bad we can get.
     
  7. Penny Luster

    Penny Luster Well-Known Member

    The longer I hang around the better I like it here. I have much to look forward to.
     
  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    31-s au and brown. The 14-d I’d try acetone or xylene on to get the Mung off. Conservation may cost more than the coin is worth. Just get a glass jar with a lid pour in and let it soak and see what happens
     
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  9. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Is there a chance I’ll ruin the coin? I hear acetone is almost like water with what it does to the coin itself. But that is something I just read on the Internet
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Acetone may or may not remove the junk on the coin but it's worth trying. You will harm the coin if you try rubbing it with anything. Let the coin soak in the acetone for a few hours and see if it is of any help.
    I have used acetone on thousands of coins and have never damaged a single one.
    I have had the acetone remove junk and the surfaces under the junk look even worse.
     
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  11. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    No chance as Larry says just soak dint rub. Then rinse with distilled water. You may if it dissolves this crud need to dump the acetone and replace with fresh. Don’t use nail polish remover as it contains other additives. Just get a can of pure acetone at the hardware store. It’s not particularly toxic but extremely flammable so be careful with that. Why I said a glass jar as it will dissolve many plastic or leach unwanted chemicals out. Put it in the jar and leave it for a day. It may take longer you can leave it in there for a. Week or 2 it won’t hurt it. Worst risk in this coin is uncovering hidden damage or uneven toning but that’s a gamble you take
     
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  12. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Altered Date? I'm not any expert, but I find it suspect there's a whole lot of fltening in the date going on, looks like it's hiding something to me.

    flatten the 1 to the left and the 9 to the right then the whole area so it looks like circulation flattening, and to close the gap of an altered 1944.

    I'm no expert on it, looks suspicious to me though.
     
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  13. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    @AirborneReams ...try distilled water first, a good soak of 24 hours. Then pat dry, never rub. If no change, try a diluted acetone of 25% for an hour and repeat with increasing strength and times. Log what you do to keep things in perspective. If still no improvement...stop. Don’t do any thing else as it’s likely nothing more will help...imo...Spark

    ps...take before and after pics and share your results.
     
  14. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    NGC lists a 14-D at G4 for $155. IMO you would be able to sell it for about 100-125 in current condition...there is still the question of authentication to be answered...Spark
     
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  15. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Your skin, his skin, what skin? I agree with paddyman! Best of luck in your decision.
     
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  16. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    To me, the coin appears to be genuine, IMO. The date is of the correct size and placement and the MM seems to be in the correct position and is the appropriate size. The question would be ROI since you indicated you were interested in flipping it. That is something you must decide.
     
  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Acetone may turn the copper pink. Not a good idea. That coin is probably ruined. You may want to try Xylene if you are dead set to try and restore it. Even if you do manage to remove the gunk the coin itself has a lot of circulation wear. Before attempting restoration on this coin practice with what ever method you choose on a bronze alloy cent before making an attempt on your wheatie.
    You may want to try ANCS for grading. They are inexpensive
     
  18. Phil's Coins

    Phil's Coins Well-Known Member

    THIS IS J M O - BUT - With this cent, send it to NGC for conservation, if they cannot satisfactorily conserve it they will not, but will grade it and return it. I have had to very disturbing "conservation" attempts with PCGS and will not use them again for conservation (I have a 1938 1/2 dollar that has dirt on it that I received from my Grandfathers estate) and THE ONLY thing wrong was the dirt - prior to sending it to PCGS I took a camel hair brush and wiped most of the dirt away, sent it to them and the indicated the dirt could not be removed. Got coin back - dipped it in distilled water for a couple of minutes and guess what - the dirt they could not remove came off. PISSED! Not gonna happen again. I know, should have done it first but did not want to take chances with it due to the family value to me.
     
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  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Try sending to ANACS, they periodically have specials, and you can see if it is real for not a lot of $
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    No it won't. That's not possible.
     
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  21. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    I agree. I have never had acetone turn any copper or copper-plated coin pink.

    Ketchup will. It’s a mild acidic. Also, strong acidics, like thiourea, even diluted, will turn them pink...Spark
     
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