The Monster Toned Coin Game Thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Jul 15, 2020.

  1. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Have at it
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Two late New Orleans Morgans. Photographs by Shane Canup, who sold them for me in 2015.

    1901o MS 64 PCGS
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    1899o MS 65* NGC
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  4. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    Top: 4.6
    Bottom: 4.0
     
  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Looks like water. First 5.5. Love it. Second I’m not as crazy over 4.6
     
  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    4.1 on the example from Mainebill

    4.5 on the 01-O
    4.4 on the 99-O
     
  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

  8. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to be insulting but those photographs look incredibly edited. I can literally see perfect squares and pixelation of colors makes it look like a bad Photoshop. Maybe it's just on my device? Here is what I am seeing.

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    I don't feel comfortable grading either of these coins with those images.
     
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  9. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Looks like a land ownership map with all the different colors different owners of tracts of land!
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’m seeing the same. Why I didn’t find the second appealing
     
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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Whatever. I didn’t take the pictures. Then, if you don’t feel comfortable, don’t rate the coins. Each as they see it.
     
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  12. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I love both of those Morgans, probably because I love blue toning like that. 5.0 for both.
     
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  13. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    5.0 for 1901o
    4.5 for 1899o
     
  14. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Both coins do look super pixelated. Seems like the photo was compressed or expanded somewhere in the process. They both seem very appealing and I wish I could see better photos of the two as they look like nice coins.

    4 on both for me as I see them. I wouldn’t have a problem going to 4.5 if the photos were not so pixelated.
     
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  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    My guess is that the photos were compressed when Shane emailed the pictures to me, because of image size. They were on an old USB drive. I haven’t seen the coins in 5 years, but as I remember, they do look like the photos. They sold as a pair, in one day, for $3500 for the pair. I honestly don’t remember the 1899o that well. The 1901o was one of my favorite coins—it has lovely pastel toning. As I recall, the 99o had a kind of patchy “neon” kind of look. I always wondered if the 99o was a case of “Questionable Toning.” I kind of expected that as a response for the 1899 o, as it was pretty, but looked kind of unnatural to me. Can’t ask Shane, as you all know his situation, unfortunately.
     
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    In my score, I did discount a bit for Shane's photos. I won a coin from his auction (around the last year that he was active on eBay) and his photos made the coin look quite a bit better than the in-hand look (part of the reason why I eventually sold it). It was a nice coin but his photos made it seem much brighter. My photos are the first two while his auction photos are the last two.


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  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary Chapter 1
    Rd. 1: 1883-O Morgan NGC MS63* [Obv]...CT -> 3.6 (Mid) vs You -> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 2: 1880 Morgan PCGS MS62 [Obv]...CT -> 2.7 (Low-Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 3: 1881-S Morgan PCGS MS65 [Rev]...CT -> 3 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 4: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS65 [Obv]...CT -> 4.6 (Mid-High) vs You -> 5 (High)
    Rd. 5: 1880-S Morgan NGC MS66* [Obv]...CT -> 3.2 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 6: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS?? [Rev]...CT -> 3.5 (Mid) vs You -> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 7: 1887 Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT-> 4.2 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 8: 1939-D Lincoln PCGS MS65RB [Obv]...CT-> 4.1 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 9: 1972-D Ike PCGS MS63 [Obv]...CT-> 2.3 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 2 (Low-Mid)
    Rd. 10: 1892 GB Half Crown PCGS MS64 [Dual]...CT-> 4 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 11: 1967 UK Half Crown PCGS MS65+ [Dual]...CT-> 3 (Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 12: 1963 Franklin NGC MS65+* FBL [Rev]...CT-> 4 (Mid-High) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 13: 1884-O Morgan PCGS MS63+ [Obv]...CT -> 5 (High) vs You -> 5 (High)
    Rd. 14: 1899 GB 6 Pence PCGS MS65 [Dual]...CT-> 5 (High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 15: 1926 F.I.C. Piastre PCGS AU58 [Dual]...CT-> 3 (Mid) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 16: 1904 USP Peso NGC PF62 [Dual]...CT-> 2.8 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 17: 1944 Jeff Nickel PCGS MS 66 [Obv]...CT-> 4.8 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 18: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS 66+ [Obv]...CT-> 2.7 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan PCGS MS 68+ [Obv]...CT-> 6 (Monster) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
    Rd. 20: 1887 Morgan PCGS MS 66+ [Obv]...CT-> 5.3 (High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
    Rd. 21: 1880-S Morgan NGC MS 66* [Obv]...CT-> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 22: 1941-D Jeff Nickel NGC MS 67* 5FS [Dual]...CT-> 4.9 (Mid-High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
    Rd. 23: 1961 Franklin 50c PCGS PR 65 [Dual]...CT-> 5.3 (High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
    Rd. 24: 1884-O Morgan NGC MS 61* [Obv]...CT-> 2.7 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 25: 1941-D Jeff Nickel PCGS MS 66 FS [Dual]...CT-> 3.6 (Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 26: 1708 GB Shilling PCGS MS64 [Dual]...CT-> 2.8 (Low-Mid) vs You-> 3 (Mid)
    Rd. 27: 1880-S Morgan PCGS MS64 PL [Rev]...CT -> 5 (High) vs You -> 5 (High)
    Rd. 28: 1835 10c PCGS AU58 [Rev]...CT -> 3.9 (Mid) vs You -> 5 (High)
    Rd. 29: 1888 Morgan PCGS MS65+ [Obv]...CT -> 4 (Mid-High) vs You -> 4 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 30: 1904-O Morgan NGC MS64 [Dual]...CT -> 3 (Mid) vs You -> 2 (Low-Mid)

    Summary Chapter 2
    Rd. 31: 1878 8tf Morgan PCGS MS66 [Obv]...CT -> 5.5 (High) vs You -> 6.0 (Monster)
    Rd. 32: 1880-s Morgan PCGS MS63 [Obv]...CT -> 4.7 (Mid-High) vs You -> 5.3 (High)
    Rd. 33: 1881-S Morgan NGC MS 66* [Obv]...CT-> 5.6 (High) vs You-> 6 (Monster)
    Rd. 34: 1868 4D Mdy PCGS MS 65 [Dual]...CT-> 3.1 (Mid) vs You-> 3.5 (Mid)
    Rd. 35: 1884-O Morgan NGC MS 64* [Obv]...CT-> 4.2 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 36: 1884-O Morgan NGC MS 64* [Obv]...CT-> 4.3 (Mid-High) vs You-> 5 (High)
    Rd. 37: 1881-S Morgan Raw [obv]...CT -> 1.8 (Low) vs You -> 1.7 (Low)
    Rd. 38: 1877-CC Quarter PCGS AU 58 [Dual]...CT -> 3.4 (Mid) vs You -> 4.8 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 39: 1919 Franc PCGS MS 66 [Dual]...CT -> 2.9 (Low-Mid) vs You -> 3.5 (Mid)
    Rd. 40: 1887 Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT -> 5.8 (High) vs You -> 6.0 (Monster)
    Rd. 41: 1974-S Ike Raw [Obv]...CT -> 2.5 (Low-Mid) vs You -> 2.0 (Low-Mid)
    Rd. 42: 1885-O Morgan NGC MS63* [Obv]...CT -> 2.8 (Low-Mid) vs You -> 3.0 (Mid)
    Rd. 43: 1958-D Franklin NGC MS64* [Dual]...CT -> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You -> 4.9 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 44: 1886 Morgan PCGS MS66 [Obv]...CT -> 5.9 (High) vs You -> 6.0 (Monster)
    Rd. 45: 1883-O Morgan NGC MS63* [Rev]...CT -> 3.5 (Mid) vs You -> 3.0 (Mid)
    Rd. 46: 1958-D Franklin NGC MS67* [Dual]...CT -> 4.1 (Mid-High) vs You -> 5.5 (High)
    Rd. 47: 1888 Morgan Anacs MS63 [Obv]...CT -> 5.1 (High) vs You -> 5.4 (High)
    Rd. 48: 1961 10c PCGS MS66+ [Obv]...CT -> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You -> 4.7 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 49*: 1883 Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT -> 5.1 (High) vs You -> 5.9 (High)
    Rd. 50: 1884 Morgan PCGS MS63 [Obv]...CT -> 3.1 (Mid) vs You -> 4.0 (Mid-High)
    Rd. 51: 1882-S Morgan PCGS MS63 [Obv]...CT -> 3.9 (Mid) vs You -> 3.2 (Mid)
    Rd. 52: 1878-S Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT -> 3.9 (Mid) vs You -> 3.7 (Mid)
    Rd. 53: 1880-S Morgan NGC MS 64 [Obv]...CT-> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You-> 3.8 (Mid)
    Rd. 54^: 1901-O Morgan PCGS MS64 [Obv]...CT -> 4.7 (Mid-High) vs You -> 5.0 (High)
    Rd. 55^: 1899-O Morgan NGC MS65* [Obv]...CT -> 4.5 (Mid-High) vs You -> 4.5 (Mid-High)
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    *Rd. 49 is presumed to be a juiced picture, so take the final scores with a grain of salt
    ^Rds. 54 & 55 are potentially pixelated pictures, which likely skewed the results
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Next up is this Morgan (my picture followed by PCGS....the 64 grade is technically fair but I thought it had a chance to upgrade via a color bump/market grading, so I included it in my first ever PCGS sub; it came back the same 64).

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  19. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

  20. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

  21. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I love it, mid 5. Maybe a 5.8 actually.
     
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