Newbe here with Atocha Coin question

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Islandboy, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. Islandboy

    Islandboy Junior Member

    I am very new to this subject, Please forgive my ignorance. I got an Atocha coin for Christmas, and see that there are many different "designs" (reversals?) between coins. How were Potosi coins made, such that they would have different placement of the parts of the shield and/ or the cross. Was each part of the shield (or cross) made separately? Or was there a single die for each side? Thanks/
     
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  3. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Hand made, hand hammered. Nice Christmas present newbie!

    Google around and you'll find more info.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It also depends on the date of the coin, designs changed from time to time. And the various mints sometimes had minor design changes as well. Often it is these design changes that allow us to identify which coins came from which mint.

    If you wish to know more about these coins try reading what you can find here - Spanish Colonial
     
  5. Islandboy

    Islandboy Junior Member

    Thanks for the advice. I believe I figured it out. They used several punches to make the coin, which if not in the proper location caused reversals (errors?).:hatch:
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes there are examples known where a letter or letters of the legends, sometimes the assayer's initials, are reversed or even inverted.
     
  7. Islandboy

    Islandboy Junior Member

    I posted pics of my coin under "introduction" section. Did not want to post them in two places. Can you tell me anything about it?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'll go look and post there ;)
     
  9. Islandboy

    Islandboy Junior Member

    'Atocha' Silver Coin Reversal Technique Explained

    An update concerning 'Atocha' silver coin reversals: Dan at Sedwickcoins emailed me to say "The point is that almost all dies were made by "punching" the elements into the dies, and in this particular period the die-engraver was in the habit of applying the punches in transposed positions (like in the shield and cross) but also he crafted at least some of the punches themselves backwards (like the backwards P's). In fact it is the idosyncrasies of die-punching that make it possible to link different coins struck from the same dies despite doubling and weakness that would otherwise make it impossible to tell.":thumb:
     
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