I think it's fake. If I remember right, ---if the details of the "other side" (I.E. reverse here) are raised, then its good however, ---if the details recede into the coin it's fake This is done by placing another coin on the one to be altered and applying enough pressure to transfer the image. Even if this is a legitimate MINT error, it can't be proven to not be a fake if this is what caused it. You could make this kind of error with 2 cents and a big hammer (if it recedes) To my untrained eye it looks like the area between the columns is raised and it shouldn't be. Then again I could be wrong
The memorial on the Obv. is totaly receded into to Obv. I thought it was fake just wanted to see what you guys thought.
this is what is called a hammer job. two coins are stacked together, covered with something so the rev. doesn't get too damaged, and then hit with a hammer. Richard
Guys: Not to be picky, but... If this is a hammer job, there should be some evidence of flattening on the reverse. And the alignment is perfect, that is: think of the clashed dies that are sold as 'prisoner cents'. I, for one will reserve judgement. Perhaps post to the errors section and see what Mike Diamond says?
I really don't see this as being anything other than a magnificent error representing a time in our nation's history when errors were slightly more common. If this is authentic (which I can confidently say it is) Than it is a rather valuable error.
Tres that's a fake there is indication on the reverse of the coin you could see the pressure marks from it being hammered notice the incused image of the bulding from the obverse of the coin I indicated it in red A true clash die will not have that Jazzcoins Joe
No that's not pitting at all, to much of an area that looks square it's the incused image of the reverse that was hammered from the obverse it's plain as day. Those are pressure marks Jazzcoins Joe
It is a hammer job, and I agree with Jazz that the reverse DOES show flattening effects. Also since the reverse design is incused and reversed the only thing that could cause it would be being struck by an already struck cent. Now just think about what would have to happen in the press for a coin like this to be created. The obv would have to be the hammer die. A cent would have to be struck and stick to the obv die. an already struck cent would have to be fed into the coining chamber. (Difficult because a struck coin is the same size as the coining chamber and so tends not to drop down into it.) The already struck cent would have to settle down in the chamber and exactly fit into the recess in the reverse die. (Or else there would be doubling showing on the reverse.) Then the capped die comes down and strikes the already struck cent. (At a much greater pressure due to the extra material between the two dies.) BUT! If that did happen. . . The reverse would be RAZOR sharp because it would have received two on center strikes with one of them at a much greater pressure than normal. (This coin does not show that.) The entire reverse would show strongly incuse on the obverse. (This one does show the whole reverse I'm surprised to say but not strongly) And those areas of the previously struck cent that are in the field areas of the incused reverse should show some evidence of flattening. (I don't see that here.) And finally what kills it is that the incuse Lincoln Memorial should be upside down as compared to the obv, and it isn't.
Maybe this is your coin and you put it in circulation to try and fool your other friends on coin talk .You are a Very bad boy Jazzcoins Joe
Don't feel bad Treas some time my brain falls asleep and doesn't wake up for days and here's a picture to prove it Jazzcoins Joe
Hi, I think you have settled in on the correct diagnosis for this one. I will just add my two cents and agree with the "squeeze job" scenario. Some folks use "hammer job" and "squeeze job" interchangeably and since both are damage, it doesn't really matter. The difference between the two ways of tampering with coins is that the "hammer job" will often have pretty good evidence of the coin having been whacked with a foreign object. Sometimes you can even see gouges caused by the damage on the head of the hammer that was used. On a "squeeze job" it is often a vice that is used and there is often less extraneous damage. In any case, the lettering from the reverse of a coin being incuse and reversed on the obverse is the sign that this coin is a "squeeze job". Thanks, Bill
