Counterfeit seated Liberty and flowing hair Dollars

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by snaz, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    well, here are two cast counterfeit "Silver" Dollars. These are Horribly done, and I can't imagine anyone would be fooled. But here are some pictures for you folks to save to your computers if you'd like. I picked them up for 5 dollars each.
    Seated Liberty:
    You can tell this is a counterfeit because:
    The stars on the obverse are not uniform in shape.
    It is Magnetic.
    Look at the date.
    The reeded edge is randomly missing reeds.
    The denticles are not uniform in spacing and size.
    Upon close magnification the stars and Lady Liberty are "grainy and pitted".
    Surprisingly the weight is 27.36 grams. relatively close to the necessary weight.
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    Here is the Flowing hair Dollar:
    20.90 grams as opposed to 26.96 grams
    the stars are not uniform.
    Grainy details
    missing denticles
    Rotated reverse
    The left wing does not stick past the wreath
    Is that a chicken or an eagle?
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Still nice to have to study counterfeits , definately worth what you paid . Thanks for sharing .
    rzage
     
  4. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    absolutely, I bought them knowing they were counterfeits. and 5 dollars is extremely reasonable IMO.
    I've had them for a while, but tonight is the first time I've sat down and studied them, very interesting to say the least.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    The 1795 really stands out as a fake, but to the unenlightened.....?

    Thanks for posting Snaz, eye opener for those less wary.
     
  6. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    People have been asking that for over 200 years. :D
     
  7. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    Are those jinhuashei coins? I have one of his Seated dollars, but I plumped for the 1873-CC :D
     
  8. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Thanks Snaz, very helpful. Appreciate the post!
     
  9. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

    Franklin may have pushed for a design looking more like a turkey? That's what he wanted the national bird to be.
     
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Does the 1795 Dollar have a reeded edge?
     
  11. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Yes, they both do.
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater


    As you know, a reeded edge on a 1795 Silver Dollar is a dead giveaway the coin is a fake. Not so on an 1872 Silver Dollar.
     
  13. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    These don't look like the J-man's coins. His are a little more convincing, and are getting better all the time.
     
  14. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Here's one of the J-man's '72 seated dollars. More proportionally correct I think.
     

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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    offer them to Isaiah!
    Juat mark them from China, and he will be sure that way that they are real.
     
  16. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    You'd have to get them into a BSGS or SGS (Same thing really) slab first.
     
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