Two Gorgoneions

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  1. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    What's better than one Gorgoneion? Well, two, of course.

    I've always admired the quirky, large cast bronze coins of Olbia, with their wide, relatively thin flans, depicting a Gorgoneion on the obverse, and a sea eagle clutching a dolphin on the reverse.

    I had an opportunity to acquire two of these coins recently, with very distinct treatments of the Gorgoneion: one with the tongue protruding, and the other without a protruding tongue.

    This coin had very small patches of bronze disease on the reverse. I've treated the coin very conservatively. I do not want to alter the patina, and so far so good, but I am monitoring it for any further evidence of BD.

    Black Sea Region, 400-380 BC
    Olbia
    Cast AE 36
    Obverse: Facing Gorgoneion.
    Reverse: Sea eagle clutching a dolphin, O-Λ-B-I in field.
    Anokhin 184. SNG BM Black Sea 396-8
    21.8 grams

    D-Camera Olbia., Gorgoneion, Ca. 400-380 BC. Æ cast 36mm, 20.1 grams, 9-17-20.jpg

    The second coin is more crudely cast, but still possesses good detail.

    Black Sea Region, 400-380 BC
    Olbia
    Cast AE 36
    Obverse: Facing Gorgoneion, tongue protruding.
    Reverse: Sea eagle clutching a dolphin, O-Λ-B-I in field.
    SNG Stancom 346, SNG BMC Black Sea 396-399
    18.1 grams

    D-Camera Olbia., Gorgoneion, Ca. 400-380 BC. Æ cast 36mm, 18.1 grams,  grey, 9-17-20.jpg
     
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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    those are dandies!..( i thought they only came in pairs:p)..:).. silver hemi drachms parion mysia greek ca 480bc 001.JPG silver hemi drachms parion mysia greek ca 480bc 003.JPG AR Greek Parion Mysia hemidrachms circa 450BC
     
  4. Ryro

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    Lovely rare examples!


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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

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  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    @ancientcoinguru gave us a must-read writeup on the largest version of these & thrashed me in the Imperator final with it a couple years ago. I'd love to have one of the biggies but I should be more realistic and pick up one like yours - great coins!

    My favourite Gorgoneion:
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    L. Plautius Plancus, AR denarius, issued c. 47 BCE
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2020
  7. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    A wonderful coin. That's an interesting reverse.

    Do you have more information?

    Thanks
     
  8. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    It's a Roman Republican L. Plautius Plancus AR Denarius from 47 BCE, with the facing head of Medusa on the obverse and, on the reverse, a winged Aurora flying right, holding a palm frond and conducting the four horses of the sun. The legend below should say PLANCVS.
     
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  9. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    My favourite and only Gorgoneion :p

    gorgoncombo.jpg

    The myth of the gorgons is one of the most ancient in Greek mythology going back as the time of Homer. They were 3 visually unappealing sisters (Stheno, Euryale, and the infamous Medusa). The first two sisters were immortal but unfortunately for Medusa she was not, and the poor thing lost her head to Perseus. I always liked the protruding tongues on these... I wonder if this mocking gesture had a similar meaning back then.
     
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Thanks! @DonnaML beat me to it (she has a lovely example) but I added the basic info below the photo anyway. Another interesting tidbit is that the reverse is thought to reproduce a 4th c. BCE painting by Nikomachos of Thebes, probably plundered by the moneyer's family. Plancus was proscribed and executed in 43 BCE.

    While I'm at it I might as well post my next favourite Medusa where she is depicted in a somewhat unhealthy state. :D I picked it for the clear Medusa face:
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    Pontos, Amisos: Mithradates VI (105-65 BCE)
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a nice face. This illustrates that it is next to impossible to get one of these with a really strong Medusa face AND the same level of Perseus and weapon all on the same coin. Some of us answer this question with having several coins. Add to that the fact that these were made in several cities and you see why this can get expensive/addictive/fun.
    Amisos - my first
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    Amastros - my best Medusa face
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    Sinope - my most broad flan
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice, @robinjojo ...

    I have no Olbian cast Aes Grave... like yours.

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    Pontic Kingdom, Amisos
    AE21, 6.95g; 85-65 BC
    Obv: Aegis with Gorgon head at center.
    Rev: Nike advancing right carrying palm branch. AMI-ΣOY in field with mongrams.
    Reference: SNG XI Stancomb 688.
    Ex: @John Anthony
     
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  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Thank you.
     
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