top 5 best and worst certification services

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  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The guy who found that new IKE said he sent it to ANACS for identification and he seems to believe that there is a philosophical difference between the ANACS and the other graders. Have you heard that before?

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 28, 2008
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are only two I would say that matter - NGC & PCGS. There is only one I would use, were I to want use one - NGC.

    Basically ANACS and ICG traded places.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 29, 2008
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Is it fair to say that - no, not in my opinion. All the graders from ANACS went to ICG and all the graders from ICG went to ANACS. But there is another thing or two to consider besides the graders. Each grading company has its own standards, so no matter who the graders are, they have to follow the standards of the company they work for at the time.

    Then you have to consider what those standards are now, today. Each company has new management, new rules, new standards. And we the public don;t know what those standards are because they are not written in a published book for us to examine. Nor has either company been grading for a long enough time for us to decide that their standards are by looking at the results.

    But I will say this, based on what I have seen - the 10 ft. pole would not be long enough.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 29, 2008
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not a philosophical difference, it's a company policy difference. ANACS, at least they used to, no idea if they still do, would grade and slab a greater number of varieties than NGC, PCGS or ICG. So if what interested you was varieties and you wanted your coins slabbed - you sent them to ANACS.

    And what he said about JP Martin, well JP is one of the most repsected names in the business.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 29, 2008
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  6. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    I agree with Doug 100%. I only buy NGC or PCGS. I like the holders of PCGS the best, but think NGC is the most consistent and accurate. Their holders are also more airtight and the new service they will be providing in Jan?? re: verifying the cert # is the solution to counterfiets for slabbed coins.
     
    Boss, Dec 25, 2008
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  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    The only ones worth using are PCGS , NGC , and maybe Dominion Grading service if they get established and keep their grading even .
    rzage
     
    rzage, Dec 25, 2008
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  8. skrilla

    skrilla That Guy

    Well crud, I have some problem coins I was gonna send to ANACS what now? Any suggestions?
     
    skrilla, Dec 25, 2008
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    My opinion changes on this with the changes with the services.

    If I wanted to sell a high dollar coin, I would probably want it in a PCGS slab.

    If I'm just working on my collection or playing around sending in coins, it goes to NGC.

    If I wanted the variety on the slab a year or so back, it went to ANACS.
    Today I would probably not send it in. I'm not sure of what I think of ANACS.

    A year from now I'll probably have a new opinion.
     
    ldhair, Dec 25, 2008
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  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Ruben's characterization of the CAC as a fraud is supported by a rational argument. Your absurdly extreme opinion of the TPG's, their motives, and your use of absolutes relegates you to a conspiracy theorist IMO. If you want us to take your position seriously then please explain why the graders at PCGS and NGC are liars and how they harm the consumers (collectors) in the coin market.
     
    Lehigh96, Dec 25, 2008
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  11. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Another differance is that NGC and PCGS will back up their grades with money. They will buy back and have bought back overgraded coins, or coins that have turned.........

    I use only 2 now, NGC and PCGS. I have used ANACS in the past, but will no longer. NGC has a numismatic and variety research dept second to none, headed by David Lange.

    I used ICG one time only, bad decision on my part, and this was before they traded places with ANACS. I have yet to see enough DGS coins, but have heard good things about them from others that I trust.
     
    Arizona Jack, Dec 25, 2008
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  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    here are my 2 cents. there are only 2 worth companies in TPG

    best
    PCGS
    NGC

    worst NGC
    PCGS

    PCGS you can make some money coz they are inconsistent NGC is downright useless they cant read write or type especially for foreign coins. If it continues like this TPG's will become a scam
     
    spock1k, Dec 26, 2008
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  13. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    DGS presodent is a great guy and so i s David Lange they just dont grade all the coins nor can they bee expected to do so
     
    spock1k, Dec 26, 2008
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  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    so now you are going to use a TPG to get your coins graded. how the mighty have fallen :rolleyes: i guess the saving grace is its only a thought :D we would have to close Cointalk down the day you start sending coins to TPG's :eek:
     
    spock1k, Dec 26, 2008
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