Salt River improperly annealed.

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Thanks for the misinformation. Should I go ahead and spend them?

 

It's really not anything like that Mark, they see it how they see it, and not really into it to begin with so discoloration = damage to them.
If you find it in a BU mint roll of the same designs, I really can't see it being anything else for a reason why one or two random coin, of a brand new issue, here or there, not an ender of a roll, displays these characteristics when the rest of the same design do not in that same roll.

Now, perhaps you found it in a circulated roll, a year from now or more, I'd be more skeptical really. It's really hard to tell how it occurs once it's circulated and dirtied up on top of it's discoloration.

I have similar pushback over die striations, vs. linear plating blisters and then infamous "dropped letters (filled die letters with grease and debris that drop out of the dies and get stamped into the coin surface)" vs. Pareidolia.

 

The vast majority of the coins listed on Ebay
and other platforms are enviornmentally damaged
coins, and not genuine mis-annealed planchets.

And those 'damaged surface' coins will have the
same surface color on the reeded edge, not the
'normal' red copper core that looks the same as
other clad quarters when you put them next to
edge other, as the OP has done.

 

Is that a magic grasshopper?

 

That's why I want to get them stabbed early, so there is no question.

 

@mark-You posted and stated, period. No comments about the coins in your post, just the title and the coins in a photo. As other members did, I made comments. I did what we all do, I made comments based on what I could see in the photos. Perhaps your photos didn't show what you could see. A coin in hand is always better than a photo but that's all we had to go on. Perhaps it was the photos. I don't know, I just know what I can see.

I may be correct and I may wrong. Please, if you feel it's worth the costs, send them in to a TPG and have them graded but please post the results when you get them back. Spend them if you desire, after all, they are your coins. Just stop with your childish insults because someone doesn't agree with you.

 

And don't be like other members and not post the results if it comes back other than what you expect.

 

I agree with this sentiment in general! I think we'd like to know what happens and how it turns out.

Although I have to say, I'd look for the cheapest way to do it, this type of thing in a quarter, if attributed and slabbed usually sells for about $30-$50. or so, some of the grading is pretty steep considering that.

Is there an ANACS special running or something? lol

 

You do know that the mint doesn't roll the coins, don't you? A third party does, so getting a mix from different mint runs can give you a mixture of coins.

After having been on this forum for a year now, throwing insults is a mistake in my opinion. And like others, we are only sharing our opinions based upon what the poster shows and says.

Yes. Spend them.

No, if you stab them, they truly are damaged coins.

 

Either way I will post the results. Cost wise is not an issue. PCGS is just up the coast from me and I believe they have a summer special going on. The title should have been in the form of a question because I wasn't for sure. Maybe you can state your response as an opinion. I will keep my childish insults to myself from now on.

 

It's Jiminy Cricket ....

 

Hahaha

 

I stand corrected, but wonder if grading would be cost effective.

 

It's not cost-effective if you want
to sell the coin(s)

 

Just out of curiosity, if you took environmentally damaged coins and cleaned the edge, could they "pass"?

 

No interest to sell. I have 4 going out. If all is well, I will gift 2 of them to members on this forum.

 

I don't think you'd get away with it really, if it can be explained away as environmental damage it will be called that by them even something that is improperly annealed and spent time in circulation and then picked up circulation and environmental damage on top of it.

I mean, sintered, or improper annealing IS environmental damage at the end of the day, the question is "did it happen at the mint environment, or can it be detected as having happened after/outside the mint some other way, or does it have to be the annealing process and something going wrong there?" Someone that's seen more than a few should know what they are looking at, being experts and all I'd think.

 

Interesting question.

The improperly annealed coins have a thin oxide coating coating. The friction/abrasion from the reeded collar during ejection from the chamber can remove some/most/all of it depending on the thickness. Although it would take a good loupe, I think an experienced numismatist could recognize the difference between the fresh edge and cleaned edge surface. if nothing else, the color of the cleaned copper core should be a giveaway. Plus, how in the heck are you going to get each reed completely clean?