Aurelian's coin reform

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Valentinian, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Aurelian was Roman emperor from 270-275. He inherited a coinage system with coins of very low quality silver we call "pre-reform" coins and improved the silver content in 274 to a still-low "20 parts copper and one part silver" usually denoted on the coins by "XXI" (or "KA" using Greek). [There is a good story of how the reform came about, with lots of blood and death, but I won't tell it here.]

    We have had many threads that mention the reform and discuss the names of the denominations pre- and post- reform. Here is one such thread (from 2019):
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/diocletian.347758/
    Here is a very nice thread with portraits of Aurelian (from 2018):
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aurelian-the-savior.318932/

    I am writing because I recently got this pre-reform coin of Aurelian which has some silvering. Usually they look like copper and silvering is found on post-reform coins.

    AurelianCONCORDIAMILITVM2078.jpg
    22-21 mm. 3.18 grams.
    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG
    CONCORDIA MILITVM, emperor and Concordia clasping hands, S in exergue
    Sear III 11522. RIC V online 1432, summer 271. Mediolanum mint. RIC V.I 120.

    If his early coins had all been this good, I'm not sure he would have needed a reform. However, may are more like this:

    AurelianCONCORDIAMILI0815.jpg

    This one is an early issue with a portrait inherited from Claudius II.
    21 mm. 4.45 grams.
    IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG
    CONCORDIA MILI, Concordia holding two standards
    Sear III 11518 variety. RIC 192. Struck as the first issue at Siscia, Oct.-Nov. 270.
    This particular coin has pretty good die work and a large flan, but the flan clearly lacks much silver.

    If you have a beautiful Aurelian, and there are many, it is likely a post-reform coin.

    Show us some coins of Aurelian.
     
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  3. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Here some, I don't know do they pre- or post-reform
    VIRT MILITVM
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    GENIUS EXERCITI
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    CONCORDIA MILI
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Not sure if Pre-or Post-Reform. Here he is with Vabalathus... and later that guy was turned out from his position...

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    RI Vabalathus 271-272 CE and Aurelian
     
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  5. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Here's a very early pre-reform from Siscia (1st issue) with plenty of very thin silvering. Below it I've included a Claudius II issued just prior, with practically the same portrait and no silver left.
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    Next here's an early Rome with a little bit of silvering but not much:
    Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 5.35.53 PM.jpg

    Finally a post-reform coin (spring 274) from Milan, with heavy silvering. Much improved quality, even in the shape of the flan!
    Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 5.36.47 PM.jpg
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    pre-reform with a Claudius II bust

    Aurelian Rome 149.JPG

    Aurelian
    A.D. 271- 272
    Ӕ Antoninianus
    21x22mm 4.3g
    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG; radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust.
    VIRTVS AVG; Aurelian standing right, holding spear and globe, receiving Victory from soldier, holding spear; In ex. T
    RIC Vi Rome 149
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Pre-reform antoniniani of Aurelian ugly? Nah!

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    Aurelian, AD 270-275.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.82 g, 22.1 mm, 5 h.
    Cyzicus, early – summer 272.
    Obv: IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: VICTORIA AVG, Trophy of arms (helmet l.); on each side, a bound and seated captive in oriental dress; C* in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 354; MER/RIC temp 2948; CBN 1156; RCV 11621; MIR 321.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My favorite pre-reform coin got that rank by demonstrating why the reform was needed:
    rs2210bb1955.jpg

    On the other hand, this coin almost seems like better billon than the standard as set by the reform. Do we oversimplify it by requiring the XXI/KA on all post reform coins? Was this overstruck on a previous coin with better silver or is this just an artifact of cleaning?
    rs2220bb0427.jpg

    Still my favorite post reform coin has none of its silver remaining but the XXI was moved up into the field to make room for the lion. I have no idea of the significance of the lion (if any???).
    rs2270b02077lg.JPG

    For that matter, why was this (rather skinny) whale used at Rome? When was this issued? The fabric and metal shout pre-reform. I have not seen enough whale coins to know if they are all this bad.
    rs2350b01982lga.jpg

    Just for the record, I'll add a KA.
    rs2340bb2062.jpg
     
  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised that there are so many early Aurelians that show a bust of Claudius I. Wouldn't they be more likely to show Quintillus?
     
  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Claudius II was highly regarded after his victories against barbarians (hence Gothicus); while his brother was merely his brother and only Emperor for a short time, so he didn't accomplish anything. When Constantine was embellishing his family tree, he claimed lineage from Claudius and Quintillus through a third brother, but he only struck coins for the cool relative-- Claudius Gothicus.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2020
  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Right. And there were a lot of CONSECRATIO coins of Claudius II minted by Quintillus. But there were also coins minted in the name of Quintillus, yet I've never seen his image used as a temporary substitute on the earliest Aurelian coins. I'd have thought there were still of lot of obverse dies sitting around after he died.
     
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