1921-S Zerbe Proof Identification

Does anyone have helpful websites or knowledge on identifying a 1921-S Zerbe Proof?

 

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Do you have photos of this coin you could show us ?

 

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1921-1-zerbe-special-strike/7341

Quote "The 1921 Zerbe Special Strike Morgan Dollars were struck on special polished dies but on normal circulation type planchets. Zerbe Special Strikes show many hairlines on the devices of the coins compared to circulation strike coins. Additionally, the Zerbe Special Strikes are not on par with the earlier Proof Morgan Dollars of the era but yet, they are better struck that circulation strike coins. There were also no Proof Morgan Dollars struck in 1921. Approximately 150 – 200 Zerbe Special Strike Morgan Dollars are believed to exist." Closed quote

 

https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/morgan-dollars-pscid-49/1921-morgan-zerbe-s1-pf-coinid-17341

Quote "It's important to note that many numismatists don't consider the Zerbe strikes to be true proof coins, as they often lack the mirrored fields and squared rims." closed quote

 

Yeah I've read all that stuff. I meant anyone with more knowledge than the small amount posted online


My 1921-S has a certain luster to it and has a particular strong strike

 

Oof. Ms Liberty has had some bad face work done.

 

Yes unfortunately I got this at a pawn shop and its definitely got some marks. Its still a nice coin though

 

You're welcome?

You should of mentioned that in your first post.

 

I mean, I thought thats what this forum was for... I do my a lot of research myself and when I hit a dead end I ask people here

Thanks though

 

That's what I did.. I took the time to find helpful information for you. But I understand.

Good luck with your Morgan!

 

It’s been horribly polished and cleaned. They made over 21 million of them. It’s worth melt.

 

"Whizzed" to death!

 

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12109939#Comment_12109939

 

Yep, that's a harshly cleaned and polished circulation strike.

 

I understand that. I'm not here for declarations, rather information. So if anyone can explain how they can rule out a 1921-S being a "Zerbe Proof", it be greatly appreciated

 

Submit it for grading to find out. Just don't try to sell it as such without certification.

Z

 

Oh I wouldn't do that lol

 

My Zerbie is actually in much better condition than yours. I'll swap mine for yours plus $5,000 if you like. You should be able to make a handsome profit from the upgrade.

If mine was an S, I would need $8,000

Z

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Lol

 

The problem is, even if it was a Zerbie I doubt you could tell. The original surfaces have been completely obliterated.