If you're into evil you're a friend of mine

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    A wicked wise man once said, "Evil things come in small diameters."
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    Yeah, something like that...And he was right!
    There's just so many juicy, wicked [edited] lil coins out there:woot:
    Evil=Things momma warned you about :troll:

    You might say, I'm pregaming for Halloween. But All Hallows Eve can be a little silly and kiddy at times. I'm talking 'bout those coins that you don't show in mixed coin company type coins:vamp:
    For my latest acquisition, I picked up a surely Satanic coin.
    Though, the seller clearly missed the mark on how a pentagram is supposed to go aaand that portraits clearly beelzebub;)
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    As you can see, in hand the beast has much more depth:
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    MYSIA, Pitane
    4th-3rd centuries BC. Æ 8mm (0.70 g). Head of Zeus Ammon right / [Π]-I-Σ-O-Σ, pentagram with pellet in center. SNG France 2253-5 var. (rev. legend); SNG Copenhagen 535 var. (same); BMC 4, note. VF, deep dark patina. Rare with this reverse legend.
    Ex Zeus
    The vast majority of Pitane’s coinage of the “Zeus Ammon / pentagram” type features an ethnic on the reverse. This rare specimen probably carries the name of a magistrate.

    Silenos is freaky-deaky anyway. But due to a flat spot on the obverse his ivy looks like horns:
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    Sicily, Katane
    AR Litra. Circa 415/3-404 BC. Head of Silenos to left, wearing ivy wreath / ΚΑΤΑΝΑΙΩΝ Winged thunderbolt between two shields. Boehringer, Kataneische LI 6-7. Rizzo pl. XIV, 18 var. SNG ANS 1266. 0.71g, 10mm, 6h

    A double terror for ancient collectors, nearly succumbed to BD and oh, yeah, just a DECAPITATION SPURTING BLOOD AND GORE!!!:yack:
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    Pontos. Amisos c 85-65 BC.
    Bronze Æ, 30mm., 18,18g.
    Helmeted head of Athena right, helmet decorated with griffin / AMIΣOY Perseus standing holding harpa and head of Medusa, at feet, body of Medusa, monograms to both sides.VF Sea 1166-76 (same).

    And lastly, a perfectly befitting evil emperor whom conjures the images of Thulsa Doom's snakes with his coinage:
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    Caracalla
    Thrace. Pautalia. AD 198-217. Bronze Æ 27mm., 12.39g. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind / [ΟVΛΠΙΑC Π]ΑVΤΑΛΙΑC, coiled serpent, head right. nearly very fine Ruzicka 687 var.; SNG Copenhagen 710 var.; Varbanov 5204. Ex Savoca




    So please share your most twistedest, uglinarliest and most EVIL:hungover::zombie::jimlad::mask::dead: stories, coins or whatever darkens...
     
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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Looks like a good thread for severed heads to me!

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    Sergius Silus (116-115 BCE), AR denarius
     
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  4. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Look at that wily, unkempt hair and massive schnozola on that severed barbarian head! Beautiful detail:artist:
    Here's my much less detailed... but just as wicked:eek:version:
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  5. Nvb

    Nvb Well-Known Member

    @Ryro it sure seems to me that the modern imagery of Satan was borrowed heavily from the Greeks, particularly Satyrs. (Possible etymology connection?)

    Perhaps this was intentional - associating core imagery of other, non-Christian belief systems with the root of all evil, the antithesis of God.


    Pan and the Satyrs with the goat’s body and horns
    The untamed Satyr’s lack of impulse control
    The trident of Poseidon
    The hooves and horns of the man headed bull
    The pentagrams..

    I’m no scholar, nor am I religious - but there has to be a relationship there..

    Here’s a coin to keep it legal

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    MACEDON UNDER ROMAN PROTECTORATE.
    Ae (Circa 142-141 BC or 167-165 BC). Thessalonika.
    Obv: Facing head of Silenos, wearing ivy wreath.
    Rev: MAKE / ΔONΩN.
    Legend in two lines; D above; all within ivy wreath.
    SNG Copenhagen 1324-6; BMC 55; HGC 3.1, 1117.
    Weight: 11.25 g.
    Diameter: 24 mm.
     
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a great spooky Pitane... the patina on it is perfect! I reckon mine is a bit less evil, but still definitely sinister-looking.

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    MYSIA, Pitane
    AE11. 1.38g, 10.6mm. MYSIA, Pitane, circa 350 BC. SNG France 2350 var. (pellet in center); SNG Cop. 533 var. (same). O: Horned head of Zeus Ammon right. R: Pentagram, Π-I-T-A surrounding.

    And, of course, evil coins need evil riffage!!



    Whoops :shame:... maybe let's try that again. How about this Zeus Ammon from Thymbra? Always more evil when they're left facing, right? :vamp: And a slightly more appropriate tune to go with it. :)

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    TROAS, Thymbra
    AE17. 5.0g, 16.9mm. TROAS, Thymbra, circa 4th century BC. SNG von Aulock 158; BMC Troas pg. 89, 4. O: Head of Zeus-Ammon left. R: ΘΥ, star of eight rays; HP monogram below.



    And what could be more ghoulish than... THE THREE GRACES! :mask:

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    CRISPINA
    AE19. 3.0g, 18.9mm. THRACE, Augusta Traiana, circa AD 178-182. Schönert-Geiss 113; Varbanov 945 (R6); RPC Online temp 10349. O: ΚΡΙСΠƐΙΝΑ СƐΒΑСΤΗ, draped bust right. R: ΑVΓΟVСΤΗС ΤΡΑΙΑΝΗС, the Three Charites, outer ones holding water jugs; behind, trees.
    Ex George Spradling Collection

    Ok, I think I've reached my evil quota for the day. Here's some gentle folk music to close things out...

     
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  7. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Pentagram and Zeus Ammon? It appears that Wacken Open Air was held at Pitane in the 4th and 3rd centuries BCE!

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    Mysia, Pitane, AE11, 4th–3rd c. BC. Obv: Horned head of Zeus Ammon r. Rev: Pentagram, pellet in center, [Π]–I. 11mm, 1.26g. Ref: BMC 2–3; SNG Copenhagen 530–535.

    And yes, I agree with those who posted above – this is another particularly gruesome type:

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    Roman Republic, moneyer: M. Sergius Silus, AR denarius, 116–115 BC, Rome mint. Obv: EX·S·C ROMA; helmeted head of Roma, r., denominational mark X. Rev: Q M·SERGI SILVS; one-armed horseman (Marcus Sergius Silus) l., holding sword and severed head in l. hand. 17mm, 2.84g. RRC RRC 286/1.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I like the type... reminds me of a favorite band :).

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    Maybe that's also why I have a thing for Zeus Ammon :D.

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    MYSIA, Pitane
    AE, 4th-3rd c. BCE
    9 mm, 0.64 gm
    Obv: Head of Zeus Ammon right
    Rev: ΠΙΤΑ; Pentagram, branch in center
    Ref: BMC 5-10 var. (pellet in center)

    Here's a fun Z-A, a Robert Ready electrotype of a coin I can never own.

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    KYRENAIKA, Kyrene
    modern copy by electrotypist Robert Ready

    host coin, c. 410-400 BCE, acquired by the British Museum in 1872
    AR "tetradrachm", 27 mm, 16.64 gm
    Obv: Bearded head of Zeus-Ammon, wearing tainia with uraeus-like ornament at forehead, facing slightly left within laurel wreath
    Rev: silphium plant; K V P A N A (split between fields, retrograde K)
    Edge: initials R R
    Ref: BMC 77 (host coin); B.V. Head. A guide to the principal coins of the Greeks, from circ. 700 B.C. to A.D. 270. London. 1965 pl. 20, 61 (host coin); host coin BM accession number 1872,0709.361; B.V. Head. A Guide to the Select Greek and Roman Coins Exhibited in Electrotype, London. 1880. Period III C #44.
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  9. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I seem to be having problems with the color...
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    And here's a Who is the most evil collage I made a few months ago.
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  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Amazing coins @TIF as usual. As for Rush, Neil Peart used to live in the town I live in now. The song "Lakeside Park" from "Caress of Steel" is about a park that is a 5 minute drive from my house. As for 2112, it is an amazing album. It is probably their most complex album. Not for everyone but I love it.
     
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great thread. I don't have any specifically evil coins, but here's one of Pluto's (god of the Underworld) brother Neptune.

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  12. almostgem

    almostgem Junior Member

    Ok, I think I've reached my evil quota for the day. Here's some gentle folk music to close things out...

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    OMG, Hey There Delilah ? Who knew ...
     
  13. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..Pat Boone...the original artist of Dio's song?!?...ahahahaaaaa..now that is evil! ><
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Dunno if this is EVIL, but a Satyr to toss in:

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    Thasos
    AR TriHemiObol
    Satyr running
    Kulix Amphora
    411-350BCE
    0.69g 12mm
    SNGCop 1030
    Ex: @Bing
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    PENTAGRAM

    I went to look this up again on various databases. I questioned its "rarity". There are not too many listed, but I was shocked at how HIGH they had hammered. I feel I really "lucked" out when I found this one and snatched it up several years ago. LOL. No WONDER @red_spork keeps telling me NOT to call it a Star, it is a PENTAGRAM. :)

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    RR Anon 211-206 BCE Victoriatus Pentagram Sear 49 Syd 233a Craw 105-1 (Listed as Very Rare to Extremely Rare...)
     
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  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Wonderful point! From the horns, tail, hooved legs to the love of young nubile fair maidens!
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    Satyr. Satan. Satyr. Satan. I mean, really early Christians, thats just lazy writing. Don't even get me started on taking back Saturnalia!
    Anyway, good reminder and GREAT coin!!!
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    (Or Satyrs)
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member


    Mine is Septimius.
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  19. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    No, there's no etymology connection whatsoever. Satan comes from the Hebrew word (שָּׂטָן) for adversary. Its use in the Hebrew Bible is as an agent of God, a sort of heavenly prosecutor and/or tempter of humanity towards evil, and has nothing to do with its meaning in Christianity.
     
  20. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Below is my most evil coin. Well, when it comes to showing off some proper violence, that is. And Trajan was one of the 'good emperors'!

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    Two coins are on offer by Roma Numismatics. They were struck under the reign of Caracalla, and commemorate the massacre of Alexandria, in 215 AD (RIC 544). Now that is some real next level evil stuff!
     
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  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    @Ryro a different "take" on one of your songs...I love Randy Newman BTW, he wrote the song
     
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