Just splurged on this. Very tough date with such cool toning. Who knows if I'll ever be able to get it to straight grade at PCGS, but I don't care, I had to buy it. Place your bets on whether it will grade (I plan to crack it), and if so, at what grade. Personally I think it has a decent chance. I've had several PCI Mercs bounce, but the coloring on this one appears more market acceptable. I do not know what the grade on the PCI holder is yet (not that it's very relevant). I have not received and seen in hand yet. I will report back in a few months (I just sent a raw submission in, so won't be sending a new raw submission in for a while).
I'll guess MS 65 Any reason to crack as opposed to sending in via cross-over? It seems like PCGS might be more understanding of the color when seeing it came from the PCI holder (I've seen that be the case with all the PCI toned Eagles).
I don't know. I've only tried crossing a Merc still in the PCI holder once, and was unsuccessful. I didn't try crossing again because it was a pretty common date. But for this one, if it appears market acceptable in hand, I'll probably crack it. If it looks QC, perhaps I'll try crossing it a few times still in the holder.
Looks to have some real promise. Anything I send to PCGS these days comes back in a genuine holder so for much of my business, mainly the stuff that I plan to flip, PCGS has trained me to take my business elsewhere and to stop wasting my money with them. As for your coin, I'd say it is certainly in the MA realm and looks like a good pickup. Congrats!
I dunno. Handsome coin, though. Probably my best cherrypickin' lick came from the crackout and resubmission of an old PCI green holder. It was a really clean looking 1904 $20 Lib, PCI MS62. I cracked it and submitted it to PCGS and it came back PCGS MS64. I gained nearly $1K worth of "cha-ching" from that change of plastic, after the subsequent sale of the PCGS-holdered coin. Which isn't to say crackout is the best option here. I think @ddddd has a valid point about there being perhaps a lower risk of a QC "details" grade if you went with a crossover rather than a crackout. But if you're the gamblin' sort, ... well...
The FB designation means more than the MS. In MS 64 the value is $250. In MS64 FB the value is $1000. These are PCGS values. I would send it to PCGS just to try to get an FB designation.
...I, too, reluctantly...MS64...due to toning. At least, this is what I think PCGS will grade it. And I see and agree to just missing the full torch/full bands criteria. But...it is still an awesome, handsome merc...Spark
I'm at 64, if it grades. IMO the toning questionable and may come back "details". Also the top bands are hard to see in the photo but look broken and middle bands look to have taken a hit and are borderline. IMO, miss the FSB standard. All that said, beautiful coin.
The coloring is different and in the PCI holder is should cross but it doesn't look like a 65 to me. 64 yes.
If you are worried about the coin crossing, you can allow it to cross at a lower grade than that on the PCI label. Honestly, I think the originality of the toning is a much bigger problem and submitting it in the PCI holder will go a long way to assuage the PCGS graders to straight grade the coin. The propensity of PCI holders to tone coin is well known and PCGS allows the Silver Eagles to cross so it stands to reason they would allow this. If you crack it, they won't know about the PCI insert and the chances that the coin gets a details grade for questionable color goes way up IMO. As for the grade, I think MS64 is likely unless your photos are hiding the luster and it doesn't appear to be full bands.
Nice dime. As for the FB designation, it's hard to tell, even enlarging the photo more, if it would make it. They mostly consider the middle band as it is the first to wear, so hope it will make it.