Confronted Licinii from Nicomedia

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    a new addition


    auction description--

    "Licinius I, with Licinius II as Caesar, Æ Nummus. Nicomedia, AD 320. DD NN IOVII LICINII INVICT AVG ET CAES, confronted laureate and draped busts of Licinius I and II, together holding Fortuna / I O M ET FORT CONSER DD NN AVG ET CAES, Jupiter standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding Victory on globe in right hand, leaning on sceptre; Fortuna standing right crowned with modius, holding cornucopiae and rudder set on globe, SMNΔ in exergue. RIC 38. 4.17g, 22mm, 12h."


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  3. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Very impressive! I was never willing to pay the price to get one of these.
     
  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Wow! That’s lovely. What an interesting art style in the front. Somebody’s got small hands lol

    my only confronted coin is too poor to show. But I love yours so much
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Just saw that it’s only 22mm!? That’s a pretty small flan to fit all that action. Engraver must have been at the height of their craft for sure. Amazing
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Very cool! I've never seen this type before. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  8. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Wow - wonderful coin! I have seen a couple at auction lately and bidding was very active - just a great coin.

    One of the many faces of Licinius I.... here a fish face:


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    Licinius I. A.D. 308-324. reduced follis (19 mm, 3.04 g). Heraclea, ca. A.D. 321-324. Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / Jupiter standing left, holding Victory and scepter; eagle at feet left; X/IIG/SMHG. RIC 52. VF.
     
  9. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    thanks all it a rare type and I am looking forward to getting it...I had another from the series and kind of regret selling it. I am keeping the new and now looking for a replacement for the old one.

    I wish that I had taken a better picture

    Licinius I & Licinius II
    A.D. 318
    21x22mm 4.3gm
    DD NN IOVII LICINII INVICT AVG ET CAES; laureate and draped confronted busts, together holding trophy of arms.
    I O M ET VIRTVTI DD NN AVG ET CAES; Jupiter stg. Left, chlamys across l. shoulder, leaning on scepter, in front of trophy, at foot of which two captives are seated on either side.
    In ex. SMATZ
    RIC VII Antioch –


    This coin was listed in RIC VII as Heraclea 50 by Bruun, because he thought the mintmark read SMHTA instead of SMATA. This error was addressed by Pierre Bastien in his article “Coins with a Double Effigy Issued by Licinius at Nicomedia, Cyzicus, and Antioch.” NC 13 (1973) : 87.


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  10. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Never seen this type before, very interesting. Nice example too.
     
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  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    a fresh auction win--


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    Licinius I & Licinius II
    Circa A.D. 318
    21mm 3.8gm
    D D N N IOVII LICINII INVICT AVG ET CAES; laureate and draped confronted busts, together holding trophy of arms.
    I O M ET VIRTVTI DD NN AVG ET CAES; Jupiter stg. Left, chlamys across l. shoulder, leaning on scepter, in front of trophy, at foot of which two captives are seated on either side.
    In ex. SMATS
    RIC VII Antioch –

    Bastien, "Coins with a Double Effigy Issued by Licinius at Nicomedia, Cyzicus, and Antioch," (Numismatic Chronicle 1973), p. 91, 5 (Pl. 6, 27-29).
     
  12. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    A really interesting series. Victor, you are a dealer too. How do you decide what to collect and what to sell? Is there any systematic approach or point of collecting emphasis? I should think it would be very difficult to be both a collector and a dealer. I’m afraid I would have a hard time letting go of my most potentially profitable coins.
     
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  13. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Gavin, there is not an easy answer for your question. My interest for many years has been Late Roman bronze, so I tend to stay in that area, but as far as what I keep or sell, it is somewhat random and based on sometimes arbitrary things, subject to change on my whims.
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice capture, @Victor . Congrats!
     
  15. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Thank you...though I paid twice what I did for my previous example, and it is in lesser condition. but...yeah o_O
     
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