1882-O with an odd mint mark

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  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Any idea what's going on on the mintmark here? It almost disappears from certain angles.

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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Interesting coin, what's with the Billy Idol lip and grafted nose? ;) She must have taken a hit, not my series at all as you can probably tell! :D
     
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  4. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    really need better pictures that aren't so grainy. impossible to really see what's happening here. can be just blur, overmagnification and light.
     
  5. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    Looks like PMD to me (Post Mint Damage)
    If it was made there - Looks kinda fakish :)
     
  6. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yes, I agree, looks fake. Her eye and the Liberty head band don't look right to me at all, and the more I look at it, the worst it appears!
     
  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    It's real. Mint mark is normal, but banged up.
     
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  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Could be real, not my series at all. Besides, I'm sure @GeorgeM knows whether it's real or not. thuxmb.gif
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks normal but the mintmark had taken a hit. That may be what you're seeing.
     
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  10. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm trying to determine if that's a bagmark hit or something that happened to the die pre-strike (or both). This year has an O/S variety that can be quite hard to diagnose, especially if there's a ding in that area.

    I'll try to get some additional pics when I find where my 3 year old has hidden my loupe again.
     
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  11. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the obverse on these sometimes looks more like a washerwoman than my feminine ideal.

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  12. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Here are a few more pictures, with the O under 5x + 10x magnification (50x net).

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  13. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    And here's 5x camera zoom + 5x loupe: (25x net magnification):

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  14. GeorgeM

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  15. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Anything I should examine closer here?
     
  16. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The O is normal. I would look at the 82 if I wanted to attribute it.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks normal and the mintark has taken a hit that has slighly flattened the lower half and pushed some metal from the right hand side into the opening in the O. (lower and right side as taken from the orientation of the last two images. The other images are too small and out of focus to tell anything.)
     
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  18. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Trying out my new endoscope. It didn't come with any software, and the only way I could figure out how to pull up the input was to have a Zoom meeting with myself and do screenshots. The "webcam" may be capable of higher resolution - it was billed as a 5MP scope.

    Anyway, here are closeups of the date. It's through mylar, so there is some minor distortion, but I'm hoping this should be enough to nail down the VAM.

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  19. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    And here's some closeups on the mintmark.

    Are there any other telltales I should examine for the 1882 O varieties?

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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a normal 1882o, with hits on it. Don’t know what all the hoopla is about it. It is a garden variety Morgan.
     
  21. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    You have doubling all the way around the left side of the 2nd 8, around the top of the 2, and at the lower serif of the 2. The mint mark is normal, but might be tilted a little to the left (very hard to gauge when the photos are rotated).
     
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