Acetone vs. Lacquer Thinner?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ZoidMeister, Sep 5, 2020.

  1. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I've seen discussions on the relative safety of soaking a coin in acetone to dislodge the dirt, crud, and DNA that adheres to a coin over the decades.

    What's the school of thought on using lacquer thinner? I have a gallon of that in the garage, but no acetone.

    I would like to use it on a "low value" silver coin to see if it will strip the dark spots off of it. Your thoughts?

    Here's the coin. Not a lot of risk in this methinks.

    Z



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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    It depends on what other ingredients are in the "lacquer thinner."

    Often, lacquer thinner will be primarily xylene or acetone (both of which are safe for silver coins). It may have other chemicals in it, however - and I'd be concerned about how those might interact with the coin.

    Check the back and tell us what the ingredients are, and we may be able to help you better.
     
  4. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Will do, thanks.

    Z
     
  5. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Here's the list.

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  6. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Here's the list.

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  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I would sacrifice the $20 or so to buy a gallon of Acetone. Our body can even produce small amounts of acetone but ethyl acetate and methanol should be avoided unless you have excellent protection . IMO, Jim
     
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  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yeah, I agree. Although there is some acetone in there, I honestly have no idea how those other things would affect a coin, and I'd probably rather avoid it.

    I have no problem using acetone with bare hands, but you'd probably better use the right kind of gloves, ventilation, and eye shields when handling that stuff.
     
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I would only use acetone but I don't think it will change the coin much. Acetone will not remove toning.
     
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  10. sambyrd44

    sambyrd44 Well-Known Member

    I have used acetone very safely it wont hurt most coins. I myself would avoid the lacquer thinner unless its an unusual situation. I have the coin below and it was lacquered when I bought it (it was fully disclosed) I tried acetone soaks long ones and it would not dissolve. I used some naptha thinner as a bath and then several distilled water rinses and then acetone and rinse, knowing it was a risk and the result was good. The coin has been stable for many years now. halfcent54feb18.jpg
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Nothing I see in the "thinner" list of ingredients would harm a coin, but they might harm you. Use with proper ventilation and away from flames. Actually a mix of solvents might remove more than any one alone. Check to see if the stuff is "water clear" and colorless.
     
  12. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Yeah, it looks water clear. I'm less concerned about the nasty effects on me than the coin. It's in a sealed glass jar with the Mexican Cinco Peso already. I noticed that a few of the black spots had loosened and were floating around in the liquid.

    Not sure how long to leave it in this stuff, but I saw other thread about acetone mention leaving them in for weeks.

    I think this stuff is a bit more aggressive than acetone.

    Z
     
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Go at it day by day. A week won't hurt, but it just might not be necessary.
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It can make you punchy, Z. Keep the window open while you're using it, get some O2 going on in there. :)
     
  15. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    It's down in the garage in an old salsa jar that was reclaimed from the recycling bin, sealed tight.

    No worries. I do more damage to myself on a Saturday night hitting the Amaretto bottle . . . . which reminds me . . . .

    This stuff is like drinking bourbon . . .

    Z
     
  16. Mike185

    Mike185 Well-Known Member

    Show the results when you done...
     
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  17. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    40 years ago a friend and I stole his mother's bottle of Amaretto.:hungry: To this day, just the word Amaretto makes me sick.:hungover:
     
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  18. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    So a follow-up question: How do you know when it's done?

    I also threw the following Peace Dollar into the jar. They've been in there a few days. I take a look at them once a day, but haven't seen much change.

    Are the dark spots supposed to "lift off" or it light patting with a q-tip needed? I saw one or two tiny black specks in the solution the first evening, but nothing since then.

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  19. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I also threw in this fuzzy Missouri Tax token. No idea what the base metal is. The white stuff on the black coin. I have a few Missouri and Kansas tax tokens with this crap growing on it . . . .

    Remember, I'm from Georgia. Here, hold my beer . . . .

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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I believe it is zinc.
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not that it's more aggressive really, just that all the different ingredients allow it to dissolve things that acetone by itself won't. Problem is, the ingredients that allow it to do that can be and often are harmful to coins in one way or another - while acetone is not.

    That's really the key - you should only use products that do not, cannot harm the coins in any way. And that's a pretty short list.
     
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