Constantius II Campgate

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  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Attached is a Campgate that I got in a batch of uncleaned. I would like to say that it is Extremely Fine and nearly fully silvered. Comments are very welcome as this is the first time I have tried to grade an ancient.
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  3. catadc

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  4. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

  5. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    That is a wonderful find for a batch of uncleaneds for sure. For me, the erosion on the obverse portrait would eliminate the possibility of an EF grade. Still, a nice coin to find given the context.
     
  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thanks. Those are the things I need to know and look into.
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice campgate, @Inspector43 !

    I have a few Constantius II's but none are campgates.

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    RI Constantius II 337-361 CE AE 2 Soldier spearing downed horseman
     
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  8. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    You'll get one. I pulled several from my uncleaned lots.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Oh, I do have a few campgates, just not of Constantius II. I really do not focus on Roman Empire, rather I enjoy the History of the Republic and those Entities that interacted with them. And, I have no desire for coin cleaning. :)
     
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  10. Co1ns

    Co1ns Active Member

    A rare campgate of Crispus found in an uncleaned lot. Minted shortly before his father ordered his execution, this coin appears to have faced similar trials:

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  11. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Just for fun (trying to get my 3 year old to sleep) I thought I’d pass on a few phone editing apps that can help with combining photos and erasing backgrounds.

    Both are free. I use an iPhone... not sure if they’re available elsewhere. Anyway... I use FrameMagic for combining photos and an app called “Background Eraser: superimpose” for erasing backgrounds. They both work great and the many faults in my photos are in the photography... which I also do with my phone... haha.

    I used Co1ns photos because they were handy and thought... “those are good photos... maybe he just needs an easy way to crop and get rid of the shadow.“ So... with the them combined and background removed...
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  12. Co1ns

    Co1ns Active Member

    Thanks @Orange Julius will see if those are available for Android very nifty
     
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  13. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Reverse is wonderful .. the portrait, unfortunately is a bit lacking.
    But an excellent find for an uncleaned lot.
    In my limited experience with LRBs you mostly have to appreciate the positives in a coin (as you do) and be thankful for what you have - it's a very nice coin.
    This Constantius II, the reverse is also a star in my estimation... there are vastly better examples out there - but for $8 this has found a good home. This simple scene really reveals a lot about the Roman psyche at the time... it says so much (what they thought about themselves.. and others) - a great piece of history.

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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    This is a sublime example of a 95% silvered, XF-AU silvered Constantine I campgate. Definitely one of the best I've ever seen, and for the price ($15) an absolute robbery.
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    I only have this one, unsilvered C-II camgate.
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  15. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    What does XF-AU mean? Extra Fine... what?
    And I do not mean to be silly about it.. I am an Ancient coin collector - do not own or know about modern coins .. unless you look in my pocket.
     
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  16. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Oh I just assumed that it’s somewheee between xtra fine and about uncirculated. The state of preservation is astounding in my opinion
     
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  17. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    So AU = uncirculated?
     
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  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    AU=About Uncirculated.
     
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  19. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    There also is a somewhat unusual campgate issue by Constantius II from Arles that shows the doors of the gate wide open. My example could eventually benefit from further cleaning, but I lack the skills to do it:

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    Constantius II, Roman Empire, AE 3, 328 AD, Arles mint. Obv: FL IVL CONSTANTIVS NOB C; laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Constantius II l. Rev: VIRTVS CAESS; open 'campgate' with four turrets and star above; in fields, S-F; mintmark QCONST. 19mm, 2.41g. Ref: RIC VII Arles 323.
     
  20. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    here's a rare Constantius II campgate, not listed in RIC

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  21. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Yes, the lone (as far as I know) bareheaded bust campgate of this period. I have one of those too! Here’s mine... looks to be an obverse and reverse die match to yours.

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