Do you think all these are genuine?

I have a feeling sentiments like this one are not rare these days...'only buy TPG coins' or...if they are not slabbed 'they're' counterfeit...but certainly something a TPG company loves to hear. mission accomplished.

 

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To spot good counterfeits, you need to be an expert (having the coin in hand helps too!). I'm guessing a very small number of people on this forum are experts in all three of those types - let alone even one of the types. So it becomes like a multiple choice question, where you can eliminate one or hopefully two and then the one left is the right one!

Reminds me of languages. Have you ever talked for a long time to someone who is not a native english speaker? They can talk for hours and their accent and choice of words can be perfect. But once every 3000 words, they make a word choice that a "native" english speaker just wouldn't say.

The same applies to anyone who can effectively pick out counterfeits. They been fooling people for hundreds of years.

How many counterfeits do you have in your collection? Start looking at them and second guess yourself!

 

TPG can be fooled too!

There was a counterfeiter in the late 80's early 90's call Omega. he was so good that all the TPG were fooled till the secret service step in and found out that he sign all his counterfeits.today his counterfeits Graded are big $$$ they were that good.
the last one I seen sold for $11,000.00 1927 SG

 

1. 25c American
2. 50c Chinese
3. 10c American

 

The middle one is the fake one IMHO.

Speedy

 

you're pictures aren't high enough resolution to really make an honest examination.


with that said and without having any of the coins in hand, i'll say the Barber quarter is the fake. the reverse seems off and the obverse appears cast.

 

Genuine fake genuine.

I'm astounded that so many people so easily swallowed the koolaide.

 

raspberry is my favorite flavor of koolaide.

 

better photos needed for my eyes.

I'll take a shot at being wrong with this multiple choice quiz.

Coin #1, If you give me a better photograph, then I could be more certain. To my eye, it has characteristics of both a genuine coin & a fake coin. There may be a raised spike of metal at the "O" at 5:00 on the reverse. There are dark Barber counterfeits known but this one gets the benefit of the doubt. I'll say it is genuine but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it.

Coin #2, has characteristics of planchet flaws and damaged dies and wait a minute, those don't look even look like struck denticles. Where planchet problems are struck by a device, it just looks all wrong. I think it is just a bad counterfeit.

Coin #3, appears to be very very very worn. I can't find any details to see if it were struck & can't hear if it rings so all I can do is compare the image to the red book. Since the OP said only one is counterfeit, then I'll guess that this one is genuine.

I can't wait to see how I did on this.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

It's interesting that most answerers here have decided that the original question was to pick THE one out of three that's counterfeit. The original question was "Do you think these are all genuine?" It could be all three are real, or all three are counterfeit.

 

this is why

 

Oops - Missed that. My bad.

 

Good thread. Only you shouldn't have told us how many were fake. I'm leary of the Barber only because of the raised edge on the rim at 7 o'clock. Otherwise, I can't spot anything else and I know the Chinese are capable of making that.

I would have also said the CBH was fake because the 3 looks really fat and just doesn't look right.

BTW David, keep in mind these old CBH's had features individually punched. With all the varieties there isn't likely to be many where characteristics match up exactly on real ones.

The last one is probably real, only because you don't see many counterfeits where they go to the effort to try to duplicate a wear pattern and make the coin worth less. EF and above are much more likely to be counterfeit.



I'll go with the CBH being the fake. The wear pattern is just a little too odd. The Barber seems to have a normal wear pattern.

 

And the answer is.........#2.

It is a contemperary counterfeit.

The way I was able to tell is because of the open mouth.


stainless

 

HOW CAN YOU TELL?!?!?! Its not even in plastic!

 

yes, I cant even SEE a coin unless its encased behind the sheen of cheap plastic.

 

:high5:

 

The Omega counterfeits were identified by ANACS in the mid 1970's long before there were TPGs. The Secret Service had nothing to do with it. And Omega did 1907 high relief SG and 1882 three dollar gold pieces. He didn't do 1927 Saint-Gaudens.

 

I'll take a stab and say all of them are genuine except the second coin...

Phoenix

 

I'll stick with the Bust half as questionable, just because of the marks on the obverse.