GDJMSP - I accept your challenge

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by satootoko, Mar 21, 2004.

  1. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I don't have this one in hand yet, so here are the seller's pictures:

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    It's a 25mm bronze, 1 fen (Y#6) from the second year of the reign of Emperor K'ang-Te (1935) in Manchuokuo (the Japanese puppet state in Manchuria).

    The book and movie "The Last Emperor" were based on the life of K'ang-Te (known variously as P'u-Yi or Hsuan T'ung when he was the final occupant of the throne of China).
     
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  3. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    Satootoko, that's an interesting coin that you are showing. I remember seeing a stamp collection in New York a few years back in New York on Occupied Stamps of World War II. I think a coin collection of that sort would be interesting as well. Are you going for that with Japan and thier Asian conquests? I was also wondering how you became interested with Japanese coins. I know that collecting Smauri swords has a popular investment niche in the states but I never heard about anything in regards to the coins of Japan. Anyway hope to read from you soon and maybe we could get your Orange County neighbor, Trader Nick to show us some of his personal coins as well.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    satootoko -

    OK - what may seem like a dumb question. Is the coin technically a Japanese coin or a Chinese coin ? I mean - it comes from China - but it was a part of China that was under Japanese rule - yes ?

    I know next to nothing about about Asian coinage other than a few basic things. Some examples have designs that I have always found appealing - but only rarely. I suppose that is because I understand so little about it.
     
  5. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    A very good question!

    Krause lists the Japanese Puppet States, including Manchoukou, as a segment of China, between the Republic of China (Taiwan) listings, and the People's Republic of China (Modern Mainland China) listings.

    On the other hand, the Japanese Numismatic Dealer's Association catalogs them, along with some Korean coins, as "Occupied Territory" coins.

    I'm trying to put together a type set, using the JNDA guidelines, which don't make distinctions between coins of the same basic design under different regimes, and ignores color differences in fiber coins; both of which Krause gives different KM/Y #s. For Manchoukou that means I only need 13 coins instead of the 17 that a Krause type set would require.

    My Beautiful Bride of 48-1/2 years is from Japan, and over the years I had accumulated a small hoard of pocket change from the visits we made. When I got back into active collecting after many years away from the hobby, I found that the cost of filling the last few holes in my Walking Liberty set would be a large multiple of what I already had invested, so when I decided to dip my toes in the world coin waters, I began concentrating on Japan. Modern Japanese coinage started in 1870, so the universe is reasonably limited, and there are many beautiful designs.

    Of course, that doesn't keep me from going after many other kinds of world coins.

    Roy
     
  6. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Okay, here is a personal favorite. While not a coin, it is still a great little numismatic item.
     

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  7. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Third issue-Three cent Fractional
    Dec. 5, 1862-Aug 16, 1869
    Appears to be "light background" variety.
     
  8. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Good eye sir. It is the light curtain variety.
     
  9. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    A very nice example. I can see why it is a favorite of yours.
    BTW, good morning.
     
  10. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Good morning sir,

    I really enjoy our early currency. The beautiful designs and colors.

    Another good example.
     

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  11. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Very nice.
    First issue-Five cent Fractional
    And Fourth issue-Ten cent Fractional.
    An awful lot of beauty and history there.
     
  12. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    You know your currency. I wish that our nation would return to the beautiful designs and colors of times past. Just think how a lazy deuce would go over today.
     
  13. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I don't really have all that information set to memory. I do, however, have quite a few referance books that come in very handy.
    Yes, the classic designs of the old large size notes would be nice to see again.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    What he said ;)
     
  15. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    You mean like these?
    These are part of a currency collection I bought last week...so naturally some of them found their way to ebay this week lol. Pretty neat stuff, I think. Sure makes todays currency look sort of...vanilla.
     

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  16. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    ANDY SAID...maybe we could get your Orange County neighbor, Trader Nick to show us some of his personal coins as well.



    Well....um...actually...I don't have any really nice personal coins. When I started doing this full time I made the decision that I would not keep anything back. It's not fair to my customers, and frankly I love this stuff so much that I'd quickly go broke. :(
    I have a few things from my childhood, and a couple of gifts that I've been given over the years...but that's it. Everything I buy is for resale. Sure some things I really like and I manage to keep for a bit longer than I have to...but it all gets sold. By keeping it all churning I am able to buy/sell some really groovy stuff, and that's where I get my pleasure...being a temporary owner and finding a home for things.

    p.s. I tried to figure out how to work the quote thingie but failed lol.
     
  17. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Very nice, Nick. And pricey too. (lol)
    BTW, if you want to include a quote in your post, click on the "reply" box located at the bottom-right of that person's post.
     
  18. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Here is a somewhat serious rumor afloat in the BEP. Commemorative large size notes recreated in small note size. Now I for one would love to see the educational notes in small size. We will have to wait and see if this rumor is true, but we can always wish.
     
  19. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    OH man that would be sweet. I'll keep my fingers crossed for that. Can you imagine what that would do for our hobby?
     
  20. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    I for one hope so. It would be nice if the BEP would have these as circulating commemoratives. Once Americans seen what beautiful currency we can produce, I think our dead presidents would once again be laid to rest.

    BTW, Trader are you here in Portland?
     
  21. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    Nope no ANA for me this time. Sort of a good thing...the shop has been swamped. Mostly buying but many newps are sold same or following day.
    Have fun in Ore :)
     
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