1857 seated dune

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes I looked at the pics you suggested, they ar enot even close to the same IMO. Yes the denticles are flat, but that is the only similarity. The distance from the inside edge of the rim to the inner edge of the denticles on your coin is twice that of the Heritage coin.
     
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  3. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    johnny54321, Dec 17, 2008
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  4. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    am I wrong?
     

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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    On that one I can see some similarity. But there is no rim at all in the affected section. And the area where the rim broke off the die is quite rough as I would expect it to be.

    As I tired to explain, I just can't figure how, on your coin, part of the rim could break away leaving the horizontal and the vertical surfaces of the break completely smooth. That is what has me puzzled.
     
    GDJMSP, Dec 17, 2008
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  6. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Take it to a coin store and measure the rim to one of the coins he has.
     
    FreakyGarrettC, Dec 17, 2008
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  7. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Yeah, I'll probably do that. The coin is not worth certifying imo, so I'll take it to a shop to be checked out.
     
    johnny54321, Dec 17, 2008
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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm not saying the coin is fake Johnny, I'm just saying that I am suspicious of it because I can't figure it out.
     
    GDJMSP, Dec 17, 2008
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  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Leadfoot, Dec 18, 2008
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  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.p.s. I could certainly be wrong as to why the crumbling takes place (i.e. die erosion), but I am 99% certain the dime is as-struck from the US mint.
     
    Leadfoot, Dec 18, 2008
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  11. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    It's all good. What fun would coin collecting be if we didn't have some debate while trying to solve mysteries every now and then.:)
     
    johnny54321, Dec 18, 2008
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  12. huntsman53

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    It appears to me that it suffered some damage (compression) on the denticles at the bottom of the Reverse! The denticles at the top of the Obverse has also been flattened out and there is a double rim but I am not sure that what happened to the Obverse and Reverse denticles, happened at the same time.

    See the edited and cropped pics that are attached.


    Frank
     

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  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Wouldn't a misaligned die low at about 1 o'clock (which caused the die crumbling in the areas you note) cause just such a positioning and double-rim?
     
    Leadfoot, Dec 18, 2008
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  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Leadfoot, Dec 18, 2008
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  15. huntsman53

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    Leadfoot,

    Yes it can but in the case of OP's coin, there is signs of definite damage which appears to be Post Mint to the denticle on the Reverse! It is possible that there scenario that you described was the original cause of the double rims on both the Obverse and Reverse but something more happened to the denticles on the Reverse. Note: The "V" like indentation cutting through the Reverse denticles from 5:00 to 6:00 o'clock.


    Frank
     
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