1880-O Morgan. Is this an 80/79 VAM 5?

I expected the 80/79 VAM to be visible to the naked eye, but it seems like this one is a lot more subtle than I expected. Do you think this is the overdate with midsized mintmark, or am I seeing things?

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1880-O_VAM-4

 

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Oops. Would help if I hit the upload:

 

Ignore that last pic. Mint mark from the wrong coin.

 

I don't see it!

 

There is something funky going on with the '1' & 'first '8' of the date, IMO. Possibly a re-punch with larger numbers, but why? The size and position of the numbers do not correlate with the reference photos.
In any case, this is not 1889/79, IMO.

 

Really not seeing anything that resembles a 80/79
Might be the pictures though

 

Nice pictures Robert from VW

 

No.

 

I must proofread my posts a little more. I meant "not 1880/79" Oops!

 

We have all done it

 

I get when my tongue blocks my eyeteeth from seeing what I type.

 

I am just a little confused, or tired. Your title is about a VAM 5 and the link you provided is for a VAM 4.

 

There are many 1880 dollar dies from the various mints that show minor artifacts in and around the date that are not recognized as overdates, even though it is possible that they are in fact successfully overdated dies.

The chances are that if they have not been accepted as overdates by now, they never will be.

 

Sorry. Too long staring at the VAM guides and trying to nail down the often minor differences / unclear indicators.

 

Understand. I still have two Morgans that I can't VAM. Endlessly going through the pages and continuously frustrated.

 

Nah

 

But does it resemble regular 1880’s. I agree numbers are different. Glad you asked.

 

Guilty

 

Great motto. Can I use it sometime