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  1. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

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    Ptolemy IV Philopator, 222-205/4 BC
    AE Tetraobol, Alexandria mint.

    Obverse: Head of Zeus-Ammon right, wearing tainia.
    Reverse: Eagle standing left, head right, on thunderbolt; uncertain radiate monogram between legs.
    References: Svoronos 1148
    Size: 37mm, 37.4g


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  3. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Actually, it's Svoronos 1167 (CPE-B360), a bronze 2-1/2 obol coin that is oversized (it should be around 32mm) but under weight (it should be around 28.5 grams). Svoronos 423 has closed wings and no cornucopia.

    - Broucheion
     
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  4. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Ptolemy III best.jpg

    Next: another one
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My largest Ptolemy

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    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE Tet 40mm 7.2mm thick 69.5g Zeus Ammon Eagle


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  6. TuckHard

    TuckHard Well-Known Member

    8.22g 22mm 3mm thick S1 Combined.png
    Ptolemaic Dynasty of Egypt
    Ptolemaios VI, c. 170-145 BCE (?)
    8.22g | 22mm | 3mm thick

    Next: Egypt piece smaller than this
     
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  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I used to have this little guy, but sold it in the AMCC1 sale... If my memory serves me, it was picked up by a CTer... Maybe they will see this?
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    PTOLEMAIC KINGS of EGYPT: Ptolemy III Euergetes (246-222 BCE), AE chalkon. 2.84g, 14mm.
    Obv: Diademed head of Zeus-Ammon right.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ; eagle standing left on thunderbolt, to left, cornucopia.
    SV970


    But since that is not mine any longer, I'll respond with this, er... These two coins:
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    Size: 13mm, 2.04g

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    Size: 13mm, 1.3g

    Trajan, Ruled 98-117 AD
    AE13 Dichalkon, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 113/114 AD, Anepigraphic issue

    Obverse: Diademed bust of Trajan right.
    Reverse: Hem-hem crown of Harpokrates, regnal year LI-Z below.
    References: SNG Cop. 265, RPC III 4820, Emmett 707 / 17 (R4)


    Next: a non-tetradrachm & non-drachm Roman Alexandrian coin
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Obol of Commodus year 23 / lion
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    Next: Keep going with Roman Alexandria but not Tetradrachm, Drachm, Obol or Dichalkon
     
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  9. Romancollector

    Romancollector Well-Known Member

    I don’t have anything to contribute, but I was curious what other denominations would there be? Diobol, denarius....(I also remember seeing aureii of Vespasian that were speculated to have been minted in Alexandria)...I’m not particularly knowledgeable on Alexandrian coinage.
     
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  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Zach Beasley has some notes gathered from respected researcher/publishers in the area at the top of his Alexandrian page: https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanProvincial/Egypt-Alexandria/Egypt-Alexandria.htm

    From my perspective, I was meaning this set of denominations:
    Billon denominations = octodrachm (radiate) : tetradrachm : didrachm : drachm
    Bronze denominations = drachm (6 bronze obols) : hemidrachm (3 obols) : diobol (2 obols) : obol (8 chalki) : hemiobol (4 chalki) : dichalkon (2 chalki) : chalkon (base unit)​
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Not all those denominations were struck for any one ruler but there are three easier ones left.
     
  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Here’s a diobol.

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    AE Diobol. 8.04g, 25mm. EGYPT, Alexandria, RY 17 (AD 132/3). RPC Online #5855; Dattari (Savio) 7917-8. O: ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙС ΤΡΑΙΑΝ - ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟС СƐΒ, laureate draped and cuirassed bust of Hadrian right, seen from rear. R: Apis bull standing right; altar before, L-IZ above.

    Next: Keep going with Roman Alexandria but not Tetradrachm, Drachm, Diobol, Obol or Dichalkon
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I am not sure of this denomination...

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    RI URBS ROMA 223-336 CE Romulus Remus She-wolf S R Alexandria mint AE 15mm 1.5g RIC VIII 8 C2 Rare

    So, that I do not mess up the thread:

    NEXT: Keep going with Roman Alexandria but not Tetradrachm, Drachm, Diobol, Obol or Dichalkon
     
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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    12 hour rule but I will stay with the Egyptian theme:

    Maximinus Daia

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    Next: coin of Domitius Domitianus, Egyptian pretender
     
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  15. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    Coin of Domitius Domitianus can be taken two ways. Here is my coin of Domitianus, where he is on the obverse.

    However, he also minted other coins he did not appear on, but are 'his'. At the start of his rule it seems he wanted to play nice with the leaders back home in Rome and so minted typical folles for Diocletian and the others. The distinguishing mark is the eagle in the left field. So if you have an Alexandrian follis of the tetrachy with an eagle in the left field, you have a coin of Domitian Domitianus. Below is emission #5a in Table 2 of "Tetrarchic Emissions for Alexandria Mint" (D VanHorn).


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    Next: Another Alexandrian, any one.

    - Broucheion
     
  16. TuckHard

    TuckHard Well-Known Member

    I just had this piece (mostly) ID'd thanks to some help in a Facebook group.


    261-227 BCE (Circa) Troas, Alexandreia AE11 SNG Cop 81-2 0.98g 10.7mm.png
    Troas, Alexandreia
    c. 261-227 BCE
    AE11 | 0.98g | 10.7mm
    Obv: Laureate head of Apollo left
    Rev: Horse grazing left, AΛE above
    Ref: Either SNG Cop 81-2 or 83-6? See this ref.

    Quick edit: I found this listing on eBay that seems to confirm the coin is SNG Cop 83-6 like one person in a FB group shared. The difference seems to be the lines and thunderbolt under the horse in 81-2 vs the plain horse with AΛE above. My type, the 83-6, was also struck in 302-301 BCE, a fair bit earlier than 81-2.

    Next: A recent identification or recent coin addition where you didn't know 100% what you were buying
     
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  17. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    This one qualifies - I still have some work to do to understand this coin - just liked the cow, calf, owl, Helios obverse.
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    Illyria, ApolloniaDyrrhachion AR Drachm, circa 200-45 BC 92-60 BC, Exephron and Zopuro, magistrates.
    Obv: Cow standing right, looking back at suckling calf standing left below; head of Helios right and EXEΦΠΩN above, owl before
    Rev: Double stellate pattern within slightly curved double linear square; ΔYP ZΩΠYPOY around

    Edit: using these two articles from Gyula Petranyi (2007) & (2010), the date I had seems to be wrong. For more information, see the website of Gyula Petranyi

    Dyrrhachium (cow always to right)
    Class 4. Various obverse names with the same reverse,multiple symbols on the obverse​

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    all of this further illustrating that I didn't know 100% what I was buying. It is only a fortunate accident that it now fits nicely the "Sulla" time period of my primary collection.
    "In the spring of 87 BC Sulla landed at Dyrrachium, in Illyria. Asia was occupied by the forces of Mithridates under the command of Archelaus. Sulla’s first target was Athens, ruled by a Mithridatic puppet; the tyrant Aristion."
    -Wikipedia, Sulla

    Next: another coin with any of Helios, cow, calf or owl
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2020
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  18. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's another Illyrian one, but from Dyrrhachium:

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    Illyria, Dyrrhachium.
    AR drachm, 2.95 g, 17.4 mm, 11 h.
    Magistrate Zopyros, 80-70 BC.
    Obv: Cow suckling calf, owl in right field before cow; ΦΙΛΩΤΑΣ above, head of Helios facing right, top.
    Rev: Square with double stellate pattern, ΔΥΡ/ΖΩ/ΠΥ/ΡΟΥ around.
    Refs: Ceka 451; Maier 221; SNG Cop 469; SNG Evelpides 1744; SNG Leipzig 715.

    Next: Cow and calf.
     
  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, looks like: “Well, crap. What do we put on a coin today?”
     
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  20. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    another one from Dyrrhachium, another magistrate: Xenon

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    next: coin from Illyria
     
  21. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    I clearly got the city wrong on my last post - Apollonia would have had an AΠOΛ on reverse, not ΔYP for Dyrrhachion. So here's a drachm from Apollonia, although only evident from seeing other coins of this type:
    Appolonia Drachm TIMEN.jpg Illyria, Apollonia, circa 250-200 53-48 BC, ΤΙΜΗN (Timen) and ΔΑΜΟΦΩΝTOΣ (Damophontos), magistrates, AR drachm
    Obv: TIMHN, cow standing left with suckling calf, monogram below
    Rev: [AΠOΛ] ΔAMOΦΩNTOΣ, double stellate pattern
    Ref: BMC 14

    Edit: Two useful articles on dating and various styles:
    Gyula Petranyi (2007) & (2010) also see the website of Gyula Petranyi

    Which raises an interesting question for this coin: is my dating also completely wrong above?
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    Apollonia
    Class L: Cow to left
    Lc. Sides of the stellate pattern are inward bending
    Lc-2/b. Rays are similar to petals​
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    Next: another coin with a magistrates name on either obverse or reverse
     
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