A Significant $1 American Silver Dollar Error

Not having a planchet in there and then the dies clashing is itself a striking mishap/error. The dies *struck* each other.

Die Stages are errors. The dies were not like that before the striking process started.

I don't live by what what the TPGs say. Some of their analyses make absolutely no sense.

 

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I think that this should be certifiable as a die variety even though it was not present when the die was made. Examples: 1922 "No D" and "Weak D" cents; 1937-D 3-Legged nickel; numerous VAM dollars, etc.

 

What I'm getting from this is that experts still don't all agree on the terminology. I'll let them (you) sort it out, and not worry about it myself for now.

 

I don't consider the 37 D three legged buffalo to be either a variety or an error, it is a die stage. The die was not like that when it was new so it's not a variety, and later after it was heavily worn it was heavily polished to remove flowlines and also removed part of the leg. It isn't an error because typically errors are "one offs" they don't repeat coin after coin. It is a die stage, it come into existence after a discrete event in the life of the die. In this case a die polishing. A coin struck immediately before the polishing is different from one immediately after the polishing

 

It shouldn't be very hard to explain.
Upon first strike makes it a variety. Mechanical issues (in significance) make them errors. Die abrasion in the event of an employee mechanical assistance have always lead to a variety, Even though there may have been an excessive polishing it was an employee assist. Therefore makes it a variety.

Employee assistance even in the event of an already manipulated die makes it a die state.. And to argue die states gets into another subject altogether.

 

I am late to the party but pretty amazing coin

 

Gee, I'd say that the Dies clashing together,
without a planchet in the collar, would certainly
be considered a 'striking mishap'

 

Stage A before die clash, stage B after die clash but before die polishing, Stage C after die polishing that removes the leg. Three leg is a die stage not a variety, and it repeats on every coin struck after the polishing, so it isn't an error.

 

Excellent! Great find!

 

Hi, Chris. I did not send it in. I picked it up from a friend.

 

Would you mind showing us the insert?

 

sure thing. i will post it Monday as i have to get it from the bank.
Also, did your copy of my book arrive?

 

Me too, until 5 minutes ago I missed this thread entirely. Awesome coin for sure.

 

Joe, nice clash. Very easy to see.
Hey, did you receive my check?

 

Just got home. Yes, I did. Thank you!

 

curious what other years have clashing? I just picked up a 2021 someone mentioned there was some in 2020 as well

 

When I first saw it, I thought it was a reflection. You have a very sharp eye to catch it. My question now is, are there any records of ASE clashes? This one is on a Bullion coin. Would a clash be possible on a proof ASE?

 

that would be cool if there was one

 

I have been buying a Proof ASE W & S and the Uncirculated ASE W. I do have some 1988 Bullion ASE's that my father left me. Although I think that clashed coins are neat, I would rather have Proof coins without any problems. Maybe my son will be interested in them.

 

Possible, yes but probably very rarely encountered.