Is this a real bar copper?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by keegan220, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. keegan220

    keegan220 New Member

    Just wanted to get some opinions about this coin
     

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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Looks like a cast counterfeit to me. Notice the huge raised blobs of metal on the obverse (side with 'USA').
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    It doesn't look good to me and looks possibly cast. I don't want to look any closer. Good or bad I would never pay money for a Bar cent unless it was authenticated by a good TPG.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I can't see the indicator on the bottom bar. Could be the condition of the coin - but I would stay away from it.
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    What is that indicator? I knew there was something (maybe a crack between bars) that is found on genuine coins but I cannot remember exactly what it is.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    This is a coin you see counterfeited, so I'd beware. Don't have anything more than that....as this is far from my specialty.
     
  8. keegan220

    keegan220 New Member

    it's not a prospect. it's just mine and i dont know anything about it
     
  9. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    On an authentic Bar cent there will be a horn protruding out of the 2nd bar on the bottom right hand side, directed at the 3rd bar down. There is often a die crack connecting the two middle bars together in the middle of the coin.
    This one does not appear to have either.
     
  10. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Cast copy for sure. Notice the metal that appears to be splashed over the obverse at roughly a 45 degree angle through US. Also there is usually a spike on the bottom far right of the second bar from the top (approx at 1:30). Also it appears that part of the S extends through the bottom of the U. You will not find that on a genuine example.
     
  11. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looks fake to me. The serifs on the A should have 'rocker bottom' feet. A line drawn along the left hand edge of the lower serif of the S should intersect the left-hand serif of the U.
     
  12. keegan220

    keegan220 New Member

    Do cast copies hold any value? It still looks pretty old.
     
  13. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member


    they do, with people who collect counterfeits, like me, but very little.
     
  14. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Sent it to a TPG and find out for sure if its real.
     
  15. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member


    to Keegan, DO NOT listen to this insanity. Your coin has a zero percent chance of being authentic. This user obviously does not know colonials. Trust me, your coin is fake. Don't waste your money getting it slabbed.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Keegan:
    Welcome, and what Isiah said :thumb:.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    More like don't waste your money getting it bodybagged.
     
  18. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Isaiah's right. This coin is definitely a cast copy. It's cool looking, but nothing more than that. Sending it to a TPG is just a waste of money.

    Exactly.
     
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